10.6.10

you know what this post is about, my title is unnecessary

So! The Alejandro video! Did you watch it? Of course you watched it. Did you read all the articles and blog posts and tweets and comments about it? Of course you did. Even if you didn't mean to. Because this video is EVERYWHERE, so there's no way you AVOIDED all this talk, and the Internet EXPLODED when it came out, and EVERYONE talked about it, and the Internet EXPLODED, and then you watched it and you, if your name is ME, were like, "Oh. Hmmm. Kay then."

See, I'd been on the fence about Gaga for forever. And then Bad Romance happened, and I read more of her interviews, and I looked at more of her hats, and I went from "maybe you sometimes have something interesting to say" to "maybe you're pretty good" to "WHY ARE WE NOT THE BEST OF FRIENDS?" So I do love Gaga, but I've never been ready to write a solidarity declaration of a post about her that is totally YEAH I'M A LITTLE MONSTER, because every once in a while she does something that is so pseudo-"edgy" that I am convinced she is just going through the same art school phase James Franco was probably in the French cinema-infested, beret-obsessed, life-philosophizing middle of when he wrote that [awful] [I'M SORRY DESARIO] story for Esquire.

But other than a few things she's said that sound all ~deep~ and ~inspirational~ because they touch on the subject of love and hate but don't actually, um, make any sense, I do like her. Lady Gaga is refreshing in a culture that has been whitewashed over with purity rings, and purity rings made out of Jesus unicorns, and purity rings that wear tiny ring-sized glasses because they're so weird and alienated, cough, TAYLOR SWIFT. Lady Gaga usually seems to know what she's talking about in interviews. Lady Gaga's videos are visually appealing. Lady Gaga's concerts are crazy and fun. And Lady Gaga's outfits, duh.

And, probably my favorite thing about Lady Gaga -- she's controversial. She makes people discuss things. Sex, sexism, females, feminism. She's interesting.

So you'd think that this interesting person would be interesting with taking on religious themes in her new video. But you know, NOT REALLY. Because this video reminds me of a certain someone named Madonna. And it reminded a lot of other people of Madonna. And maybe the worst thing you can do when everyone is just starting to stop with the "she thinks she's Madonna!" stuff is make a video that is BASICALLY MADONNA.
Now, I'm not saying Madonna invented Christianity. Wow, let me rephrase that in a way that doesn't read as though she's literally Jesus -- I know Madonna wasn't the first to make religion a theme in her videos and match it up with sex and all that. But the other similarities and circumstances are too canny. I know no one is original anymore, and I think Lady Gaga is normally pretty original with her unoriginality, but in this case, there wasn't a connection for me to be convinced it was an homage. It was just kind of like...BLACK LEATHER S&M CONE BRA. Was there no one on the set of this video that was kind of like, "Hmm, don't you guys think this is all a bit too familiar?" Or WAS there, but then he or she was just silenced by an attack of angry young men with bowl cuts and Borat swimsuits?

Anyway, I'm not really adding anything to the discussion since everyone has already called attention to the Madonna-ness but I just wrote all that so I'm leaving it there, dammit. A few other observations:

-The song started at 2:30, which is slightly better than Telephone's 3:00, but it still felt too slow at times.
-It was directed by Steven Klein! Which makes my Dolce ad campaign-loving heart happy. Or, it would if I actually liked the video. Sadface.
-The song itself reminds me of questions on state tests that try to be all diverse. "Alejandro, Fernando, Roberto, Stereotypical Asian-Sounding Name, and Rabbi Goldsteinovitz all went to the store to buy apples."
-That last second where her face disintegrates reminded me of some kind of emo kid MySpace from 2006. Nightmare Before Christmas icons, Green Day layout, etc.
-My favorite costume item was what looked like a lace monocle. The cross on the crotch was kind of too trying-to-be-dangerous, and the other outfits were just like...underwear? I do like a latex nun's habit, however.

And that's that. A celebrity has already called it out for being offensive to their religion, a million people have already compared it to Madonna, and I will crawl back under a blanket and continue watching Daria and stuffing myself with pretzel Goldfish. Goodnight.

185 comments:

Erin said...
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Erin said...

When I got home from school today, I'm thinking to myself, "Isn't Lady Gaga awesome and controversial? I should post about it!" And here it is. On your blog. Strange.

-Erin
FashionUnderwater.blogspot.com

Le Jardin said...

i love gaga so much basically for the same reasons. its like shes a breath of fresh air in a music world polluted with artist that are practically the same. and the reason people compare her to madonna is because in her time she was what gaga is now. sooo thts why we are fellow little monsters. its basically a cult but thts ok...i think

thats all i gotta say about that.

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thispoorlittlerichgirl said...

I think you missed the point of the video. Gaga wasn't trying to copy Madonna, she was paying homage to her. And you're right, Madonna didn't invent christianity and she wasn't the first to match it with sex. Watch some of Ingmar Bergman's films, I drew a lot of similarities between them and Alejandro actually.
It's 2010, in my opinion no one is original anymore. It's getting tiring when everyone constantly compares Gaga and other pop stars to everybody before them, just because they have similar themes, similar fashion doesn't mean that they're ripping them off.

Maia said...

the scene where gaga was wearing the black vest and black pants that looked very dolce gabbanaesk, it REALLLLYY reminded me of madonna.
great post tavi!
xx

brodie said...

1- i watch that Val episode before going to sleep. THAT IS SO JIGGY!
2- that t-swift video has 43 MILLION views!? what in the what! people are brain-dead.
3- i like to think that lady gaga knows exactly what she's doing and, just like Telephone could have been a statement about shameless product placement, this is a (ridiculously excessive and expensive) jibe at all the people comparing her to madonna

this comment probably won't post because your blog is notorious for being like "comment posted!"..."PSYCHE! IT FAILED! LOL" at me.

Maia said...

oh, also a quote by her i thought you might like.
"being provocative is not just about getting peoples attention, its about saying something that really effects people, in a real way, and in a positive way. so all those things that i do in terms of the fame and in terms of the fame monster, its meant to make it a bit easier to swallow this horrific media world that we live in"
she is just SUCH an interesting person..

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. said...

I went through the same phases with lady gaga from dislking her to loving her I think she a amazing her videos are usually very creative and interesting but not this one tbh i found it broing to watch the dark coulors the same scenery after the technicoulour-ness of telephone it's just wierd and confusing i really liked alejandro but the video kinda ruined it for me and also her eyebrows look wierd in this video lol xxxx
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Indigo said...

wow I love Gaga <3 xxx

WendyB said...

I adore Gaga but not sure how crazy I am about this video. If she was trying to comment on or pay homage to Madonna, it wasn't coming through for me. It felt like it was a pretty straightforward recycling of M's ideas. Maybe I'll watch it again and feel differently.

Stasia said...

Actually her "just like...underwear" outfit was my favorite because it connected the German Expressionism imagery with what struck me as Butoh-like imagery. As German Expressionism came as a response to WWI, the art of Butoh in Japan responded to WWII. I'm pretty sure one of the first Butoh pieces actually dealt with homosexual taboos... a theme Lady GaGa talked about wanting to project in her video. Butoh mixes beauty and humor with the grotesque just as GaGa's Alejandro mixes shock value with a tongue-in-cheek attitude towards the images and music she presents. I mean, come on, it's obviously intentional, after all she doesn't only copy Madonna, but Ace of Base and ABBA as well, and all in a ridiculous Latin accent! Like it or leave it, the Lady knew what she was doing.

RGR said...

I don't need to talk about Gaga anymore, I've done plenty of that. BUT.

1. This is clearly a Klein work. Kleiny all over. We should stop blaming Gaga/giving her credit.

I hate Klein, I'm sorry. It's personal. I have no defense.

2. At least it's finally concretely warranted that people keep saying she rips off Madonna. It's usually stupid because it just means "blonde woman who likes sex and has songs," as if any pop star could do those things today and not owe Madonna. Mostly, it's redundant to even mention it.

But at least now it really means, you know, cone boobs. It's clearly a reference more than ever. Really, though, why shouldn't this be the time for her to do that? I mean, [and please let's just pretend this isn't racist and the whole thing isn't racist coughhotlikemexicocough], it's "Alejandro." It's, first, the most 90s throw-back, the most Madonna-sounding (any reference to Madonna she had in, say, "Just Dance" exists only to the extent that Madonna arrived six years late to the party in various club-movements in the 1990s and then we've claimed ever since that she invented dance music or some shit).

Plus, you know, Mexico...Catholicism. This song called for it, racist as it is. And it has religious references. It needed to be a Catholic sex blowout, let's be real.

And, everyone knows, if you do a Catholic sex blowout in black leather and you try to pass it off as not a Madge homage, you're fooling yourself. What's that cliche about going big or going home? Don't half-ass your Madonna ripoffs.

3. It shouldn't have been an epic. "Bad Romance" and "Paparazzi" were epic videos and they were events of the decade, you know? And "Telephone" was a great epic. This should have just been a single, no one would have freaked out if she had followed her epics with another mildly-provocative 3-minute single, like "Poker Face" and "Love Game."

Hannah said...

hadn't watched it, seriously - i was still kinda reeling over her tarantino-esque telephone video and the 10 minutes of my life that it stole..

Isabel said...

I still love the Gaga, but but was definitely my least favourite video of hers so far. I mean, what was up with dry humping all those S&M Nazis?

Eleanor said...

When I first heard the song on the radio, I actually thought it was a new Madonna song.
Everything about it channel's Madge.

kelli said...

you may find the symbolism in this article interesting:

lady gaga, the illuminati puppet

Darbla. said...

"Alejandro, Fernando, Roberto, Stereotypical Asian-Sounding Name, and Rabbi Goldsteinovitz all went to the store to buy apples."

This! For some reason makes me think of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHv3qO_Y8kk

Also, machine gun tittays = Yes.

RMJ said...

I just watched this finally for the first time. Nothing to say that I haven't seen elsewhere, though I must admit I am surprised at how literal the Madonna homage is. I like the subdued eye makeup.

I was also pretty taken in by Bad Romance - video and song. I like Gaga's music regardless, but one thing that strikes me as the strength of BR is is how tight BR is. It's visually stunning, brings new dimensions to the song, and makes some kind of sense as a narrative without a lot of excess. Telephone and Alejandro have failed to equal it on any of these levels.

Miss_Tami_Lee said...

She said herself the video was an homage to Madonna. It's so blatantly obvious, I can't believe anyone wouldn't jump to that conclusion themselves. If she denied it, then yes, it would be ridiculous.

The Monster Artist said...

love this post, especially because you know what you're talking about tavi. Hopefully in the future, we will have an opportunity to work together. It is in great interest to me.

ART MONSTER
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SaraKateSwan said...

Im still on the fence.......

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Mouthwash said...

I too loved Bad Romance. But this one...Just wasn't all that amazing. All I could think of was Madonna.
But, Daria and pretzel goldfish sound soooo amazing right now.

Amber
ambersmouthwash

bolaji said...

hey tavi:
here's an EXCELLENT review of alejandro by lesley kinzel. not sure if u've perused this one, but it's impactful and insightful in a way that i'm sure most people may not have considered. the commentary is equally rich and varied.

http://www.fatshionista.com/cms/index.php?option=com_mojo&Itemid=69&p=412

enjoy!

xobolaji

pomegranate season said...

I love Gaga. However... it's not cool to use nazis to provoke people, or as a metaphor, or anything. Not cool at all.

jkim said...

actually, more than the religious thing, i was a bit put off by the glorifying of fascist fashion. i can understand that this video might be trying to show how extremely restrictive governing bodies (fascist governments, religious groups) can actually create and foster more "degenerative" behaviors in its people, but still... yeah. not digging it.

mynameislauraz said...

I actually liked James Franco's short story. I liked it enough to name my personal "blog" after it. But, you know, maybe I did like it more because JAMES FRANCO wrote it. Ha.

Steve said...

Wow, actually this is the first time I heard about it! I'm just not using the right internets...

I have to say it seems kind of boring, but I definitely feel like she was addressing the "she's just a Modonna copy" head-on (just like she tried addressing the 'Gaga is a trans-hermaphro-man-sexual!!' rumors with Telephone').

Or hey, maybe she and her people saw the way everyone was taking 'analysis' of her videos too far and decided to throw them something really obtuse, just to see where the internethropologists would go with it.

Fourth Daughter said...

Is it really daggy to say that the Glee/Gaga episode gave me a better appreciation of what Poker Face was actually about!???? (it just aired last night here in Australia)
..'stereotypical Asian-sounding name...' hahaha...!!

Poppy said...

i love gaga! she's so amazing.
I want to see her in concert soo much. I was just like you, at first i didn't like her and now i LOVE her!
Love Poppy
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swirl said...

i suppose this does remind me of Madonna, but not nearly as much as i expected it to. there's nothing powerful or moving about it, nothing that gives me pause. i remember the first time i saw the 'like a prayer' video; i did not relate to the controversy it caused, but i was fascinated by the video and the story in the song (as with so many of her songs/videos). of course i couldn't relate to her dilemma either, but it didn't matter because one could tell that it was significant. what is lady gaga even talking about? there's no drama, no conflict, there's no connection between the song and the video either, and that is a lost art. so whatever is visually going on, whether or not she's blatently ripping Madonna off, is irrelevent. makes me miss the amazingness that was Madonna and want to youtube at least 10 of her videos.

Rodrigo said...

Tavi,
Alejandro, Roberto, Fernando are Latin names. I dont really think they sound Asian... No idea why... but they are latin names. Very commun names in country were Spanish is the main Language. Roberto is also very common in Brazil, so portuguess... which is a latin language... so yeah Latin!
and well... I think Gagas needs to come out and say "yes it was homage to Madonna"
or this is chicken sh&t! She is been copying Madonna for a while... this time it was just all out there! Just watch Express Yourself, Vogue, and Like a prayer and this was a conbination of those three!

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Sandy Joe said...

its seemed very Evita "don't cry for me argentina" ish.

siri said...

Is it just me or do some parts of this (for instance the latex nun) remind you of alexander mcqueen fall 2009? Maybe it's just me...hmm. Anyway, love Gaga, but I kind of really like a lot (a lot) agree with you Tavi :/

James said...

I was disappointed it didn't follow on from Telephone, but it still features some amazing visuals (even if we have seen them before).
Have you seen the credits for all the clothes? It's pretty interesting: http://nicolaformichetti.blogspot.com/2010/06/alejandro-by-lady-gaga-fashion-credits.html

zoomslow said...

Tavi! Tavi! There's a a part of this that's just like Madonna!!!

GAGA - 2:53 "You know that I love you boy hot like Mexico rejoice. At this point I gotta choose..."

Sounds an awful lot like...

MADGE: "Don't just stand there, let's get to it. Strike a pose there's nothing to it."

Oops, I've just made a correction. I'd left the A out, so I just had GAG!

Well, at least the colours are pretty :-)

kuhelani said...

"The religious symbolism is not meant to denote anything negative, but represents the character's battle between the dark forces of this world and the spiritual salvation of the Soul," Klein wrote. "Thus at the end of the film, she chooses to be a nun, and the reason her mouth and eyes disappear is because she is withdrawing her senses from the world of evil and going inward towards prayer and contemplation."

Klein added that the scene in which Gaga ingests the rosary beads is meant to represent "the desire to take in the holy."

On the religious note I thought this was pretty interesting, maybe even made the video more enjoyable. It's always nice to see thoughtfulness.
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Mathilda said...

I think you´re much more original than Madonna and Lady Gaga.
You have a fashion concept of your own and with, let´s say, a much lower budget you create a whole universe of styles, ideas, stories and all.
I prefer Madonna as a material than a spiritual girl.
I don´t know Gaga very much but if she (still) emulates Madonna it´s because she doesn´t know Tavi. She should hire you as an advisor. You´re an orginator and very cultural.
As Daria said: "I don´t suffer of low self esteem. I suffer of low esteem for others." :)

Jill said...

a lot of people at my school are like "lady gaga is so weird!!" ...but then those same people say that *I* am weird. precisely why i love her.

Big Apple Grafix said...

My initial impression of Lady Gaga was that she is being used as a propaganda tool, and my mind still hasn't been changed. Lady Gaga has captured everyone's imagination because her videos are exploring REALLY, REALLY DARK ideas, probably darker and more fucked up than any other mainstream artist to date. This has the potential of being really great, but I don't think she's achieved that level of 'greatness' because she/most people aren't acknowledging these things outright, they're not "getting it" and they really need to be.

Lady Gaga/the team behind Gaga are trying to be provocative and she says that herself, but what exactly is she trying to provoke? Because last I checked, there was a clear difference between BEING PERVERTED AND BEING PROVOCATIVE. If you want to provoke important issues, for god fucking sake, take a stance on them, and let us know what they are! because lady gaga videos are mostly just provoking "WTF" and "uhh, this reminds me of Madonna" or "wow, i love dolce and gabbana!" or "she is playing with sexality somehowwwwwwithinkyes! she is making a new statement of some sort but whatever can it be!? well, i love her for being so provocative!"

what the fuck exactly is she saying? It's not like there's some rule against artists explaining their work, or making a specific point, and she is NOT.
. It is plenty acceptable for artists to talk about the actual intent of their work, and she only gives vague answers, and never addresses the specific imagery and ideas in her work.

but these following articles at least attempt to discuss the ideas fueling the Gaga machine of extreme fuckedddness

Lady Gaga: The Illuminati Puppet:
http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=1676

and The Hidden Meaning of Lady Gaga's "Telephone"
http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=3423

Most people that I've showed these articles to don't even want to read it because it's somewhat vaguely conspiracy theory-ish, but really, it's pretty fucking blatant, and everything cited in the article is now documented and proven, NOT conspiracy "theorizing"- i.e CIA mind control, Project Monarch, and santanic ritual abuse (i know omg, scary crazy, but this stuff is actually real and documented) look it up, there is a plethora of information about this out there.

She has included imagery from those aforementioned things hundreds of times, and still the public at large/blogosphere seems to continue to not talk about it, because I guess acknowledging secret government experiments is just not hip yet. get with it people, let's face the REAL WORLD. please.

I think we need to get real here. they are playing with some really fucked up ideas in her videos, and it's not at all clear why and that's scary. I really hope they're trying to be ironic, but since nobody is catching on it just seems manipulative to me. call me a prude.

plus seriously, you don't even have to read those articles i just mentioned- just read the lyric sheets to her albums and tell me it's not promoting shallowness and reckless, fucked up, ugly, behavior.

"What's going on on the floor?
I love this record baby but I can' t see straight anymore
Keep it cool, what's the name of this club?
I can' t remember but it's alright, a-alright"

hey kids, want to know what happens when you take drugs at a club and can't figure out what's going on? You end up with a fucking STD or five, and you're behaving like a shitty human being.


-becca

SAVING BETTY said...

lol your posts are always so intersting <3

Ilinca said...

While I love Gaga this song seems to me a bad mix between Ace of Base, ABBA and Madonna

About her, I like the kind of message like it is ok to be different

Sylvia etc... said...

Hi Tavi,
love your writing and your reference to 'borat swimsuits' ;-) definitely total madonnaesque influence but great steven klein job nonetheless ... just saw the video yesterday on pelayo's blog 'katelovesme'

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Oana Roxana said...

I so don't like Gaga.Not even a bit. When I saw the images I thought it was Madonna.I don't like her either,but I was curious what is about.She's without shame.That must be charming? She was better before she become famous.

MELISSA Z. said...

I love this video and I don't care about all rumors! It's great, stop!

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MellJBrown said...

perhaps its an homage?

Like when everyone went mad at the "product placement" in the telephone clip without realising she was making a statement, not getting paid.

-m xx
p.s. i wish i had been you when I was 14! Not fair.

i call myself lil said...

Isn't it a homage?
That`s what I thought when I first watched it.
It`s not just the Christianity thing, the make up makes her look like Madonna and there are parts that I thought "wow that doesn't look like something Lady Gaga would do.. but it looks like Madonna!" so I just assumed it is some sort of homage..

Lauren Hero said...

I was massively obsessed with Gaga...literally..she was on my mind 24/7 for like three weeks. Then I saw this video with my dad and I felt like vomitting.

I've been bought up with a religion you see..I love my religion and God. That video was like a slap in the face to people like me. I hate the 'Alejandro' video.

I do love a bit of controversy, but when it involves religion and stuff that sexually explicit, I get nasty. That should not be allowed to be made accessable because Gaga has fans as young as 10 (my sister). She knows that which is even more rediculous...LOOK AT HOW SHE'S INFLUENCING OUR LITTLE SISTERS AND DAUGHTERS TO BE SLUTS!!!

Go ahead 'little monsters'...throw fruit at me!...just don't come complaining to me when your little sister ends up pregnant at 12.

Cristina S. said...

In fact, Alejandro, Roberto and Fernando are Stereotypical Spanish or Latin-Sounding Names :)

Sahakiel said...

1. No, she isn't doing nothing new (for me), only copying Madonna again and again.
2. The song is absurd (for me, again); it doesn't invite to do anything.
3. Those guys... are all gay, no? Because they look like that all the time, and so the video is so improbable for me.
4. Because of her costumes or the eye-pached everybody's saying that she's an Iluminati... er... no. She's not. Marilyn Manson already did this too.
5. This song made me think more carefully about buying her cd.
6. I love the way she do her videos, the clothes, the scene... but if the music doesn't say anything, it's silly for me.

Anyway, I liked your opint of view.

'kaate said...

Heey,

I love your blog, it's true, amusing, funny & best of all different!

katee, x

Chloë said...

i don't really know about this whole gaga thing. maybe i just haven't reached the phase where i actually start to like her yet? but i won't necessarily say that i dislike her either, she just doesn't really appeal to me. but i do have to say that i don't like this song and video, not because of the whole wahhh wahh blasphemy discussion or anything, but just because i simply find the whole ting a bit too 90s and lame for my taste, basically. but then again, i was never really the religious type i guess.

Stef said...

Tavi your posts always make me laugh. Your are one of the only bloggers with a genuine sense of humour. Lady Gaga doesn't really appeal to me, and I still haven't even watched the video the whole way through, as much as I love the song itself. She's just boring me now. This 'edgy' religion and secksitimez stuff has been done before. It's not particularly scandalous to me, even in a world ruled by Justin Bieber.

Jenny Peyton said...

Hey Tavi!
Just wanted to let you know that your in this months issue of Cosmopolitan Australia.
There's a whole article about you and some other young fashion forwards!
If you want I can find a scanner and send you a copy or if you want to buy the magazine I thought I'd just let you know!
xxx
Jenny.

Jennifer said...

is it still ok for me to be still on the fence about gaga? i think the pros and cons have both weighed themselves equally to me, the outfits being a big pro (lobster hat, although sans tape underwear)

hm, i guess once you decide your going to address sex & religion in a music video its difficult not to go a little bit into madonna territory, especially if its gaga (shes like an 80s madonna brought to 2010)

however my main reason for posting is, what are these pretzel goldfish you speak of and where can i purchase them?

Emmekay said...

;-D


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Valentine said...

Nice post...!
At the end of the day she's not so original... nothing that she does is new, she's just doing what madonna and other did with what available in 2010...

http://valentineavoh.blogspot.com/
-belgian fashionista-

Julia_cc said...

I loved the video... and when I read all the madonna stuff I thought that maybe Lady Gaga could be the madonna of this generation.. maybe Gaga felt inspired by her as a lot of other people finds inspiration in other artists and sometimes you get to close to a copy of that artist..
I love Lady Gaga's videos.. the esthetic it's just great..

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Gailė. said...

I love this video and youre blog.
Mua.

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Illustratornette said...

Really? I think she did a great job of reworking the religion/sex theme. Is it Madonna -esk? Yes, but anyone who uses black leather and religious iconography will always be said to relate back to Madonna. Lady Gaga is pushing it even further than Madonna (cross on crotch). I thought the video was artistic and well thought out. It definitely makes people want to talk and that is what makes it art. It has people asking questions and raising issues. Plus, hello- she looks crazy in all the wicked costumes!

Kathryn said...

She has never been original really! Her image is an amalgamation of what has been popular or even commonplace in the underground weirdo art scene for years and she has bitten off of Roisin Murphy as well as Nana Rapeblossom. Beside that her newer image has just been.. wearing McQueen.

CAROLINE. said...

I can't believe that I still haven't watched it even though I love her. She really seemed like a genuine person whose work was just so close to their heart in her showstudio interview. It wasn't that look-at-me-I'm-a-bobble-head effusiveness, but a very deep, sometimes almost too-serious obsession with what she does, and I love that about her.

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Caroline said...

Wow Tavi, I'm always so impressed by your posts. I really liked reading you view on this Alejandro business, and I like your take on it. She IS controversial and she IS different, so that's basically the reason why she's being targeted in the media spotlight as being some weirdo person. Lovely post.

julia said...

I think the worst thing about this video is the song – it´s so boring and average.
It sound´s like something from the 80ies oder 90ies.

It seems to me, that Gaga just travels and performs too much and has no time to write some really good new songs like pokerface.

To provoke by using religious symbols – boring, seen that before.

Eric Waroll said...

I love Lady Gaga, but I prefer Madonna. And I absolutely agree with u about what u wrote in this post!
http://www.waroll.com

Nous said...

Tavi, you're spot on about how this video is not an homage because homages are, well, DIFFERENT from the originals. I've been waiting around to be impressed by Lady Gaga (who I do love like the ugly/cute mutt down the street who won me over with its scrappiness, but has yet to make a truly inspirational video. Like, "awww, I love that you're different from other pups! I totally pay more attention to you because I can't tell the other dogs apart! Now do MORE.")

I guess I don't watch much of the other stuff running rampant in pop culture out there, so I don't have a high level of dreck to compare Lady Gaga to. But here's what I'm saying: If you're only brilliant in comparison to others, you must take it up a notch.

Susan d'Auvergne said...

You writing sparkles and zings with wit and common sense! I enjoy reading your blog much more than the somewhat judgemental columns by Robin Givhan in The Washington Post. You really nailed the concept of there is nothing new under the sun- that most celebrities are just recycling what was done before (Madonna herself is a master at this).

Thanks for being such a great writer-
Susan at PollySue's in DC

Hannah said...

Ironically, my favorite part of the video was before the song actually started -- when she was leading the funeral procession, carrying her own heart. Wish she'd gone in that direction, I thought it was the most visually stunning!
Also, apparently this video is supposed to be a homage to Cabaret??

Wilde.Dash said...

Tavi- Normally I'm with you 100%, you're a clever one. Lady Gaga, though, is a trickier subject than meets the eye. The key to Gaga is not via Madonna, it's through Warhol and William S. Burroughs. Warhol recycled and silk screened and mass produced and repackaged pop culture. His art was completely unique, but his subjects were not. Burroughs built new literary works by cutting up old ones and his own, and putting the pieces back together in interesting ways. Gaga does the same. Gaga doesn't want to be part of pop culture iconography, she wants to become all of pop culture iconography. She pillages and re-appropriates. The dialogue she's starting between her physical person and history promotes a postmodern theoretical discussion I'm not sure even she fully understands just yet.

Past that, though, in short: Gaga attempts to embody Madonna only in Madge’s strongest moments. The last decade has been primarily made up of pop tarts who think provocation and sexuality can only be achieved through come hither Lolita-plays. Britney, Rihanna, etc. do not own their gender, or their bodies. When Britney tried to be Madonna, she missed the point. When Gaga takes on Madonna's territory, she gets it...and pushes it one step further. Madonna’s body ownership was an owning of sex. Gaga frolics in sex but is explicitly unsexy. She offsets nudity with oddity, de-sexing the sex and pushing towards ideas of androgyny and cyborg roboticism . Her sexuality is a mirror and a statement.

Ok, the way I wrote that sounds really confusing. Anyway. Point is: society/music now kind of needs Madonna as symbol. We need a pop star who owns their image and sexuality fully. You’re the exception, you know. Most people are woefully unaware (past trigger aesthetics) of the visual and sonic language Gaga is playing with. For them, her existence is mind blowing. Her image is a Burroughs cut-up. It’s what she does, and her artistic license to weird in a corrupt, cut and dry pop world are really phenomenal. I loved this video. I thought it was absolutely gorgeous in spite of its confused symbolism. It’s aligning fascism, religion, and perversion with her center stage as willing martyr, and the art direction: win. Anyway. Glad you're offering up bold opinions. We likes that sort of internet fearlessness.

In love & squalor,

wilde.dash

tough girl said...

She is my God,my inspiration,my everything. I love her so much that I couldn't stop myself from watching the Alejandro MV.

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KKY said...

I think that the song is mediocre, and the concept of the video was... ok. The background dancers are amazingg, but it seems, a bit cliche. Madonna used it, and now Lady Gaga? Please. The world needs a new idea.

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Tammy said...

Amazing! The video is definitely a tribute- there's about a zillion direct references from different Madonna videos (and some Britney Spears ones too)! It kinda reminded me of the Madonna tribute that was on some MTV award show some time ago, except that one was acted out by drag queens :)

The song sounds like a mix of Madonna's "La Isla Bonita" and some ABBA song (they actually have a song called "Fernando" but it doesn't sound like this one) and "All that she wants" (I think) by Ace of Base.

I did, however expect it to be much racier from the sounds of all the controversy! I worked at an alternative/gothy nightclub for a decade and most of these exact styles made a regular appearance! That steampunk style has been around foreeeeever! Photoshoots of latex nuns with crosses in strange places have been, too! No biggie. The literal bullet bra was new & brilliantly hilarious, though :)

The one thing I hated is that boy-band style of choreographed dance. Ugh. Leave that crap to the boy-bands.

Overall, everyone should quit poo-pooing all over it. The video wasn't that orgy-ish (again, what about Brit?) and it is very aesthetically pleasing. It's fun to watch!

Sofie Marie said...

Wow...I love Tavi even more than Gaga.
I just love how you phrase things Tavi...it's like you take all my thoughts and phrase them into a intellectual humourous epic of a post. evidence
"Alejandro, Fernando, Roberto, Stereotypical Asian-Sounding Name, and Rabbi Goldsteinovitz all went to the store to buy apples."
That was just like plain hilarious.so true.

To adress the whole Alejandro thing...I liked it.I didn't exactly understand it,and didn't really see how it had much relevance to the lyrics of the song.But hey its fun,it's interesting and atleast it gets people talking.

I kind of have warmed up to Gaga...at first I thought she was just superficial,and that all the controversial stuff was plainly to be controversial.Like hey...lets stick some sex positions in here,lets poisin my boyfriend,lets make a sandwich...yeah,because that will shock everyone and look artsy.

But,if you look further and listen to the interviews you kind of start to get the feeling that she truly is just an interesting person,with genericoriginal ideas.Maybe we're all being fooled,but it's fun and we should accept it.Plus she has good music.

So yeah.....pointles yadi ya-ing. Nobody needs my opinion,blahblah.but heyyyy.
Keep writing Tavi.Keep doing your thing Gaga.Maybe you'll make our worlds a better place.

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basia said...

Hi Tavi
I can't agree with U, I ignore Lady G and still waiting for a miracle. She must wake up from very very bad dream...Thanks for all your post and inspiration

joy said...

I will say this. I admire her business savvy but I will be damned to say that she is super awesome 100%. And I feel the same about Madonna. They both approach music differently from most and captivate audiences. I do not like all the music they put out but they are successful. I haven't seen the Alejandro video yet....but I have read way too much about it.

kelly frances said...

for some reason, she just doesnt do it for me.. i dont find her fascinating. i think she trys too hard, its all an act. one day shell have to be comfortable in her own skin and not all these ridiculous get ups .. its actually sad that shes living in this fantasy world

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Emily said...

pretzel goldfish (or fishy pretzels, as i call them) are the bestttt

xx

Katie said...

My favourite outfit of the video was the lace glasses/headpiece. I became a gag fan too after paparazzi but this video was just meh for me. Maybe I'll go back and fall in love but for now I'll just rewatch telephone a million and six more times. Great post! I adore how you go from super current pop culture stuff like gaga to more "underground" stuff like zines in a single post.

Jorge Alexander said...

love gaga

lumberjackie said...

The video had "meaning" behind it, actually. It was supposed to be some sort of gay-rights video. You can read it somewhere!

melissochka said...

Hahahaha, Tavi, I love you.

stompie_smax said...

I've said it elsewhere and I'll say it again: I completely understand everyone’s arguments about this being boring, but I also think that that opinion only really works if you're already culturally literate in a way that allows you to see all the references. Speaking as someone who used to be pretty much precisely the kind of person Gaga is targeting on her big inclusion/Little Monster mission, I freaking WISH something like this had been put out by a blazingly popular musician when I was still green and eager enough to go to the library or otherwise try to find out what people on the internet meant when they said "Looks like Tom of Finland."

@Tavi specifically, part of what I like about this blog is the enthusiasm that comes through when you start seriously examining something that's new-ish ground for you. When people my age write about Sassy, I go "right right, enough with the nostalgia, do we really have to spend all this time waxing reminiscent about how awesome things used to be?" Whenever I see people reminiscing like that, it feels like there's an inherent slight against the present - like, "Kids these days, they don't have Sassy, all they have are video games and facebook TSK" But when you wrote about Sassy, my reaction was more like "SEE? RIGHT?! Sassy's underlying objective is totally relevant when you DO remove it from the context of nostalgia." Your call to make a contemporary Sassy was right on, but it was also necessary for you to get more old issues and look at the original. That's not re-tread, it's research.

As people are always pointing out to you, you're lucky enough to be about fifty times more culturally literate than most adults. If even you, someone who is already a dang decent cultural critic, is still able to mine the past for awesome stuff you didn't previously know about, I think it's perfectly legit for Gaga - someone whose stated intent is to open up new worlds of expression for her fans - to draw on a cultural lineage that goes beyond just Madonna references and into more obscure stuff that is still legitimately obscure to a big, big part of her audience. She's doing the research for her fans, at least the preliminary rounds - her whole pop ethos is to help people help de-alienate themselves from culture.

I agree that there's not a lot of strikingly innovative material in this video. This one is more like a visual encyclopedia of associational links between fascism, Catholicism, Latin American culture and homosexuality. But I think that's okay! mainly because there are plenty of people who have never seen The Night Porter, never read Kiss of the Spider Woman, and probably plenty of people who can barely remember when the weirdest thing about Madonna wasn't her interest in Kabbalah.

So, after a lot of idealistic bloviating, what I'm trying to say is: the video isn't that bad. And I agree that those lace goggles are really nice.

cancercowboy said...

whats there to add? its a nicely produced pop video that indeed owes much to Madonna and a little bit to Marilyn Manson.
maybe every generation needs something like that.
that parts of the audience still consider this recycling of visual ideas shocking or even appalling tells me more about these people than i wanna know. the actual music does not appeal to me; i don't think its novel, particularly interesting or extraordinarily good. to me its just another batch of mainstream pop. sorry. the only thing that speaks in favour of Lady Gaga are the sometimes hilarious clothes she wears. if i wanted to be cynical i'd say she's a nicely wrapped product.

and its true that its difficult to come up with something entirely new or groundbreaking today. but even if you don't tread into the waters of the unknown, there are still some nice shells to be found on the metaphorical beach of song. even if you work solely with common ideas you can make something interesting. but just adding new costumes to the carnival isn't enough, at least in music and at least to me. but thats subjective and not a matter of life or death. its entertainment. so whatever, enjoy Daria, the summer and the delicious pretzels. but be careful: those sneaky dainties almost killed a president.

P.S. am i the only one who had to proxy his way into youtube to watch the video?

@Big Apple Grafix -the Illuminati? seriously? and i was so close to admitting that trolling can be a form of art...

Morse said...

Our society has been whitewashed by celebrities in purity rings? I'd have to disagree. While I appreciate Lady Gaga's artistry, visual appeal, and desire to throw off the limits that conventional society has intentionally/unintentionally placed on musicians (plus her songs are great), I'd be more inclined to call her "refreshing" if she chose to dress in a real nun's habit and robe minus sexy backup dancers and, instead, sought to make her musical talent the center of her video, rather than her body/sex appeal. I mean, honestly, Tavi, you saw barely clothed women squirming around in bath tubs, shot in a provocative way in Bad Romance and you've seen it (or an equivalent) 5 million other times in pop videos. Now, perhaps she's just doing it to point out the overused style that those videos employ, but I don't think she's doing it purposely to open up discussion on "sex, sexism, females, feminism". Isn't much of the modern debate on feminism based on the overly sexed music industry? Sure, when Gaga wore McQueen in the Bad Romance video she confused the sheeple that your blog so often decries, but is that enough of a reason to idolize her rather than simply regard her as an interesting and talented musician/performer?

Molly said...

Tavi, You're such a great writer and I love reading your highly opinionated posts that are so genuinely YOU. Thanks for sharing!

ModestMix said...

"Alejandro, Fernando, Roberto, Stereotypical Asian-Sounding Name"
Not at all, they're clearly latino sounding (i.e south america area, or spain which is in europe) which is nowhere NEAR asia. Basic geography! lol

Maria said...

I agree with Morse: Gaga would have been more to the point if she just wore a simple nun's habit and robe. The suspicious thing about Gaga is that, firstly, she isn't saying that much, and secondly, she's sexing it up unnecessarily. Of course, there's always the ironic stance to fall back on, but I can't see Gaga worthy of charitable interpretations. She's jumped ship way too often, and wish such gusto.

Another reason why this video is unnecessarily provocative (and therefore uninteresting) is because it makes it look as if the only available choices are nunnery and, um, S&M apparel. If she had an honest intention to get people talking about religion and sex and gay rights, she wouldn't have chosen the scandal strategy. So either she's just naive, or she had a different intention. I'm guessing the second.

but yeah, the Nasir Mazhar headpiece is beautiful. Though sometimes I get the sense she's doing these designers a disservice by wearing their outfits. Putting an Alexander McQueen look in a self-indulgent, saucy video ends up banalizing that great designer's art. Some designers' work can be so easily harmed by being placed in the wrong context, or worn in the wrong way. And I don't mean, like, with the wrong accessories. It's just that some garments seem to need this special context of the runway show or escapist fashion photography. There are probably other contexts with might be appropriate, but darn, the BD video just wasn't one of them...

Masha said...

Lady gaga is lady gaga. she's original but she copy everyone. even grace jones did't want to work with her because she sad that she saw her wearing like she one day...

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bonniebohemia said...

so. I don't like Gaga. I can't stand the repetitive music, I mean, kill me, but I don't get the point of all this show off! Her outfits are great, and all the show around it as well, so who actually needs music? Well I do need music. Good music. So allow me to switch back my Nick Cave and The Black Seeds, shuffled with Tom Waits, Beastie Boys, Boney M and other REAL freaks. because the real contreversy now is to stay out of the spotlight, or just to be forgotten.

Ivana said...

Wow, have visited your blog now for the second time and this post really impressed me! It is straight to the point, just cut the crapish*love*! The thing I like best is you giving your true opinion, even though she was/is someone you admire and there are not a lot of peope who can take that distance. REALLY impressive writing and will definitely make me come back more often;). Keep up the good work!

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Sophia/Sophie/Soso said...

well, i don't like lady gaga. i don't like her dresses neither her makeup, hair, music whatsoever. what is it with all these spolight craving people today!?
anyway, keep posting. looking forward to your next entries.

Keren, rhymes w/ Heron said...

I was pretty sure, at one point in the video, gaga was modeling herself after Rita from Power Rangers.

(please google image search)

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Raychel said...

i just dont see how she can go from something as original as the mv or telephone to a madonna knock off

and the men here look like nazis.

swelleboutique.com said...

Everything is derivative these days but a work should still stand on its own. I'm not sure this one does.

Hannah said...

I dont think this is a homage to madonna. Of course Gaga is 'like' madonna, she is 'like' every celebrity we idolise because she is essentially a Satire of all modern celebrities. she is a genius for her unashamedly artistic commentary on fame culture.

Dona said...

Sounds like a remix of Inner Circle's Sweat. Somehow.
I would like to know your views on religion Tavi. That would be interesting.
Hm... Lady Gaga seems to turn into controversy; it's amazing how she approaches these things.
I disliked having a cross at her crotch though. I mean, it's unique to show religion, but wow. Someone PLEASE tell me what the symbolism is.

Julia said...

For all of you "correcting" Tavi about the whole names issue: Y'all need to read more carefully! Tavi was listing several Latin names, FOLLOWED by "stereotypical Asian-sounding name," FOLLOWED by Rabbi such-and-such. Jeez, don't they teach you young'uns what punctuation means any more?

Valentina Martínez Añez said...

Hey Tavi I still don´t get why is everybody so into this Lady Gaga but I certainly enjoyed your review on this new video (which as you say is All over my social networks, so ok, i will watch it now) Your post is as good as TIM SIEDELL´s review on Sex and the city 2 for the Huffington post http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tim-siedell/a-review-of-emsex-and-the_b_593554.html

Caroline said...

I think you should do a favorite magazines part 2 post because I am eager to hear about some more.

Also, if you haven't already, you should read The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo and its sequels because they're really good and really feminist (and written by a man, no less) and reading them mad me think of you and your view of feminism, I guess?

aslanfromboston said...

This video is... okay, I saw it for the first time after watching the Madonna episode of glee so I definitely saw similarities. I don't think Lady Gaga is influencing people to be slutty. It think she is just expressing herself and being different which is good. I agree with her being a refreshing change from Tayla Swift (Her songs all sound the same!) and Disney blah blah. It gets really boring when thats all people talk about!

cee said...

we have like the same blog post! LOVE LOVE HER. SHE'S AMAZING. NUFF' SAID.

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mili said...

meh. i much much much prefer madonna, even though i like lady gaga i think she's overstepping her boundaries a bit. she's only been around for two years- madonna is a legend, and she was definitely a popstar before she became that- you cant go from nothign to legend. also, as some other ppl said, telephone was AMAZING and GROUNDBREAKING, and this was.... meh.

firefly said...

Hmmm...I like the gender-bending (fishnets and high heels anyone?) and her vest and trousers outfit along with the lace monocle one, but I thought the theme of this video was more difficult to extract than the others. Can anyone enlighten me?

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tedexi1988 said...

この動画・・・・

静かな迫力がいい!

Big Apple Grafix said...

@cancercowboy

how am i trolling? I'm commenting on this post just like you and everyone else- although you are basically reinforcing my point that people refuse to even consider those ideas without looking into them. your loss- it's informative, and a new slant on the Gaga situation than what most blogs are talking about

I don't think it's as far fetched as you might initially think, did you even read the articles?

thwany said...

what i love most about her is that she's bringing back the art and magic of the music video, something that's been lost since the 90's. music videos nowadays just aren't exciting anymore. i miss watching mtv in the 90's and just being amazed at everything. now it's all unfortunate trash and reality tv programming.

maria louié said...

the whole world is so GAGA.
and I like it...

Clara said...

Lady Gaga is amazing, i love her.

natali said...

the clip is cute but 8 nimuots?! thet's looooong..!
please come in-
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jasmin said...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2010/jun/09/lady-gaga-alejandro


"Who's most offended by Lady Gaga's Alejandro?

The church? Madonna fans? The League of Engineering Draftspeople? It seems everyone has a claim to be outraged by Lady Gaga's latest video"

Funny Guardian article.

brightlightsbigcity said...

i loved the lace monacle as well. that first sequence is probably the best part of the video besides the dance where she's basically wearing underwear because bearded guy on her right is hilarious. but i hated the little suit outfit. aa;lskdfj.

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[insert name here before it crawls away] said...

So! The Alejandro video! Did you watch it (Now I did)? Of course you watched it (yep). Did you read all the articles and blog posts and tweets and comments about it (Umm.. does yours count?)? Of course you did (Okay).

I love your blog :D!!

Artemis said...

I really think this whole controversy about the video is overrated.

CHECK OUT MY BLOG AND LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU THINK:

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cancercowboy said...

@Big Apple Grafix -sorry if i hurt your feelings. i read the articles. Bernays is giggling in his grave, i'm sure. controlling perceptions and thus influencing behaviour is a serious topic. claiming that its about subliminal Illuminati symbolism woven into music videos does not do justice to it. i'd recommend you dig a little bit deeper. for starters you could read Noam Chomsky's and Edward Herman's "Manufacturing Consent" and of course Bernays' "Propaganda". if you ain't that much of a book person try to watch the BBC 4-parter "The Century of the Self" or, for a more recent example, "Weapons of Mass Deception" by Danny Schechter. if you want to discuss this any further, feel free to mail me.

@Tavi -Sorry for occupying so much space for off-topic stuff here.

daisychain said...

I was thinking exactly the same thing Tavi

I didnt used to like her beacause well espeshially for her style i think she took to much credit for it when its all designers and stylists but reading more interveiws i began to like her a little, although there have been acts before just like her even christina aguluaria yet people call her original and different.

but after show studio i sorta liked her, atleast as a person.

but after this video AND THE SONG

THE SONG IS ALSO EXACTLY LIKE MADONNA with the accent its like Evita or that spanish song madonna did and with the talking EXACTLY like Vogue and then with the video....too far i think. paying homage is copying in this instance i think.

totally agree with you.

still on the fence!

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Lauren Linnea said...

I think the most shocking thing about this video is the fact that we are seeing Lady Gaga in a pair of pants.

CHEARLY said...

I don't like Gaga that much, especially in this video. It's soooo weird, There's no comparison with Madge!!

Phoebe said...

Meh. I would say that I once loved Lady Gaga's style, but there's only so many wacky videos, crazy hairstyles and appearances in basically nothing but some designer bra and hot-pants that a girl can take.

The Girls Got Rhythm said...

I must say I think the woman is fantastic, though this video, seems more pretentious and weird than creative and cutting edge. Sorry but a bunch of gay-boys dancing erotically on prison class beds in high heels and pudding bowl hair-cuts hardly screams innovation to myself... I'm interested to see what sort of video she'll do for Teeth, A class song.

firefly said...

RGR: "coughhotlikemexicocough]" Really? I thought she meant the climate there. XD

Also, you know when a celebrity/famous person messes up, everyone thinks they can only get worse? Hey, this doesn't necessarily mean all the rest of her videos(and career are going to get worse from this.

compost said...

>cough<

Romi said...

I have seen the video and I don't see genius, I don't see artistic inspiration...I was disgusted, it's one step too far in the direction, Madonna hadn't dared to go. Katy perry says it best "Blasphemy is not entertainment".

I've heard Klein's explanation regarding the the controversial aspects of the video and I thought it was asinine...

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kathrynnova said...

i will write at the first that yes i like her, i'm glad she's in our culture and she is very talented.

BUT. i thought that alejandro was pretty cheap - right down to her crappy fake accent at the beginning. rips offs left and right of not only madonna, but isabella blow, terry gilliam imagery, and the beginning of charlotte rampling's AMAZING song in the movie 'the night porter' (the beginning of alejandro matches it nearly exactly - just without the nazi arm-bands). i mean - there is a difference between inspiration and rip-offs. these were too close to the original, so they are rip-offs.

i love both steven klein AND gaga, but found this whole video boring and bad. but people are not perfect, so you know - it's not the best video, so what. i'm sure, at least i hope, the next one will be better.

but really - we've got the mental asylum imagery, mafia imagery, nazi imagery, prison, and now blasphemous religious imagery - what's the next video location, lady? a meth den?

as you can see i'm torn on this one. as if lady gaga really cares about my opinion......

Morse said...

Tavi- what sort of message about feminism do you think this video is trying to send? That's not meant to be a rhetorical question; you mentioned those as being concepts for discussion that her videos generate and I'd like to know why you think that way.

Big Apple Grafix said...

@ cancercowboy

thanks for the recommendations, will definitely check them out. it may not do it justice but its on to something...

do you have a blog? i couldnt find anything, didnt know if it was private.

i am not blog savvy at all

squawg said...

This cracks me up. Sage, concise criticism, all around.

What's even more distressing than this video being so derivative of Madonna is how derivative Christina Aguilera's new video is of Gaga's new video. Right down to the monocle.

ashford said...

Alejandro is so Ace of Base!!
love her "dirty" underwear. need that.

Bex said...

'nothing is original. Steal from anywhere that resonates with inspiration or fuels your imagination. Devour old films, new films, music, books, paintings,photographs, poems, dreams, random conversations, architecture, bridges, street signs, trees, clouds, bodies of water, light and shadows. Select only things to steal from that directly speak to your soul. If you do this, your work (and theft) will be authentic. Authenticity is invaluable; originality is non-exsistant. And don't bother concealing your thievery - celebrate it if you feel like. (Jean-Luc Godard)

thought this was appropriate.

The head pieces are genius as per usual and her hair cut is the cut for now, boys you should totally rock bowl cuts and high shorts, those thighs!

if you look super closely at the end when Ga Ga is "giving them her sex" the part where she gets thrown around...one of the guys on the left actually cracks up. ggs


I like.

Bex said...

'nothing is original. Steal from anywhere that resonates with inspiration or fuels your imagination. Devour old films, new films, music, books, paintings,photographs, poems, dreams, random conversations, architecture, bridges, street signs, trees, clouds, bodies of water, light and shadows. Select only things to steal from that directly speak to your soul. If you do this, your work (and theft) will be authentic. Authenticity is invaluable; originality is non-exsistant. And don't bother concealing your thievery - celebrate it if you feel like. (Jean-Luc Godard)

thought this was appropriate.

The head pieces are genius as per usual and her hair cut is the cut for now, boys you should totally rock bowl cuts and high shorts, those thighs!

if you look super closely at the end when Ga Ga is "giving them her sex" the part where she gets thrown around...one of the guys on the left actually cracks up. ggs


I like.

Bex said...

sorry about double post...just making sure everyone gets the originality thing lololololololololololololololololo

Bex said...

besides its not where you take things from,,, its where you take things to.

Agnete said...

"Watch some of Ingmar Bergmann`s films"? Theres more than 60! :)

Alexia said...

Thanks you Tavi, I had 2 great laughs today : first, I watched this video clip with the pure girl with the white dress and glasses and the pure boy and the evil girl wearing a sexy red dress. Verrrrry entertaining.

Then I read this : "-The song itself reminds me of questions on state tests that try to be all diverse. "Alejandro, Fernando, Roberto, Stereotypical Asian-Sounding Name, and Rabbi Goldsteinovitz all went to the store to buy apples." and I laughed again.

Sootjeelina said...

I like the Alejandro vid, Telephone was better, but this is cool too :D

xoxo Sootjeelina <3

Teo said...

Actually, Alejandro, Fernando ad Roberto are LATIN names. Alejandro is for spanish speaking countries and Fernando and Roberto are for spanish speaking countries and also portuguese speaking countries.
I'm brazilian and I know these stuff. Nothing about Asian guys.

CHRISTINA G said...

i think lady gaga is sth new and catchy .i like lady gaga i think that she is very talentedbut i don't like some things that i find them too much.Who is aleandro anyway ?Don't tell me that he is just metaforical and refers to the men in the clip wearing heels.....that is too much ...where are the real men nowadays ????and the relegious theme yes it reminded me of madonna !

Werepup said...

i didnt get it at all ... what was supposed to be going on cos im reeeaaly confused =S

Paige said...

Yeah, I definitely think less needs to be said about the Madonna connection and more about the neo-Nazis. WHATTTT, GAGA?

Nedda Ebo said...

Tavi I couldn't disagree with you more.

The concept is completely different. Maybe some visuals look familiar but that DOESN'T make it a 'Madonna reference.' This video is about her relationship with gay men, and about her struggle between religion and her love for the LGBT community, and she is also trying to state that gay men should be allowed to fight in the army.
Madonna did almost everything just to be sexual. Sex sells. (but I love her, don't get me wrong.)

I have an interpretation of Alejandro posted on my blog, and it really isn't Madonna at all.

And MIGHT I ADD...that cone bra was made by Jean Paul Gaultier. Madonna simply wore it. And let's not forget how Madonna payed 'homage' to Marilyn Monroe throughout her career, and ripped of Cyndi Lauper with wearing the corset? Yeah.

Mustart x

JULIA said...

I think that this is all a publicity stunt. If she was really as odd as she dressed/spoke/acted, her music wouldn't be so mainstream and top 40. I'd expect something synthesized and progressive and jazzy.

Girl Power is on my to-read list, but I was just wondering if you could recommend a few more? And congrats on leaving the hell hole! Wait sorry I meant Middle School!

firefly said...

Sorry for commenting once again but my version is: "-The song itself reminds me of questions on state tests that try to be all diverse. "Alejandro, Fernando, Roberto, Ching Chung, and Rabbi Goldsteinovitz all went to the store to buy apples."

Can you imagine? XD

Mallory said...

Honestly, I was a little disappointed with this video. I may have built it up too much in my head though.
I want more real dance numbers!
And her really ugly undergarmets were annoying. They didn't seem very Gaga. I was hoping for a little more glitz, you know?

FND said...

So many gaga fans trying to defend this video. I still think its Like A Prayer 2010 esp the part where she's singing in front of the burning crosses tho hers is on a projector instead of a real one. How futuristic.

i'am.altaModa said...

I totally agree with Katy Perry! Using blasphemy as means of publicity is pretty tacky. Prime example? Uhh, Madonna. Though I am not catholic is I still find it offensive ( and believe me, I am a LITTLE MONSTER too).

Still love me some Gaga but next time, lose the crosses.

http://www.iamaltamoda.com/

jkim said...

review on alejandro from a 93 year old woman...
http://the-ogs.com/LadyGaga

Mathilda said...

Cancercowboy:

I´m a big fan of Chomsky too.
I think he is the most important contemporary thinker.

I enjoy reading your comments here very much.

Tavi´s readers are so brilliant. I feel more like an expectator of this insightful forum.
Congratulations, Tavi. You´re our Lady Gagarim. Driving this cyberspaceship to an unlimited universe of inspiring discussion.
It´s a relief to me, who live in a very poor country, I mean, culturaly, to see so clever a group. I would say our tribes are neighbors. Yet I´m much older. But feel awarded by reading this page.
May Daria Morgendorfer bless you all. :))

Amira said...

An interpretatation of the video: http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=3979

Amira said...

An interpretatation of the video: http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=3979

Big Apple Grafix said...

Great article Amira, I am a big fan of the Vigilant Citizen

i like the last sentences-

"I’m sure many fans have a gut feeling that something is wrong with her act, but still can’t stop listening to her. They must tell themselves, “well, there is nothing else to listen to.” And that’s what media monopolies are all about."

exactly. There is something really off about her, like she is being manipulated beyond her own understanding to implement some sort of weird agenda. I felt this so strongly from the beginning.

Then again, all "popstars" are that- they are people who allow themselves to be manipulated for the media's purposes, and who are obsessed with fame, in a very blatant way (i mean come on, it doen't get any more blatant than "The Fame Monster").

They are not simply singer-songerwriters. They are carefully formulated PRODUCTS. Lady Gaga is the ultimate tool. Just like Madonna, Britney, Christina, Keisha, etc etc. It's not simply music or art, it's an agenda, a lifestyle, a moral agenda, and in my opinion, not a very sophisticated or altruistic one, They may state that their goals are "sexual liberation" or "creative liberation". .. BUT don't you think those are ironic statements coming from people who aren't inherently creative or individualistic since they aren't in control of so many aspects of their act, including their songwriting (for the most part)?

You can youtube early Gaga videos, and she is completely different, just a normal and very bubbly girl. Then she basically sold herself to these record company people who transformed her into something entirely different, and her new persona is aloof, cold, and almost inhuman. Her skin and hair are white, like a dead person. Not at all like her former personality or appearance.

Why would they want to present our new Madonna as being almost inhuman and dead?


Madonna's talent was her incredible ability to be a whore, to do anything to get attention. (read her biography written by her brother- he goes into incredible detail about this, as this personality trait was evident from her childhood. He says that she fucked her way to the top, and would do ANYTHING FOR fame and attention. yes he says this!!! ).

I'm not saying that Madonna or Lady Gaga don't have some inherent musical and performance abilities, they do, but they are not brilliant artists. They are like soulless vessels being told what to do, and we have no choice but to listen to them because the media has created a monopoly. Her debut album sold millions, did it not? This is not normal! How does a virtual unknown sell millions of records? Because there is a media monopoly, and they are DYING FOR US TO LISTEN TO HER!

we are basically being forced to listen to Lady Gaga, unless we demand to take her off the air!!

Doesn't anyone think this is weird? Why do they want us to listen to her so bad?

Am I the only person who finds this inherently disturbing? Am I the only person who takes this fact into account and DOESNT want to listen to or like her because of it? Am I the only person who is meta-analyzing this shit?

Seriously people, her music is not that great. It's mediocre pop/dance music, and most of it sounds awful.

stop allowing yourselves to be brainwashed by this fucking SHIT media that has taken over our country and demand that we have real artists on the radio and tv again!

Big Apple Grafix said...

by the way, I am a normal 23 year old girl, i have an etsy shop, i sell vintage stuff, im not scary. I am not an old cranky man, a religious zealot, or a "troll". I am just fucking suspicious and would love to see more people hop off the Gaga bandwagon and realize that we should actually be angry over this bullshit

Tavi, I am sorry to hi-jack your thread,and I am not trying to insult you or your opinions on Lady Gaga at all. I love your writing! but I just gotta challenge this GAGA love fest

Big Apple Grafix said...

and by the way,

I would like to know how gay people feel about Lady Gaga saying that this video was made to promote gay relationships (im paraphrasing- if someone could find that quote it would be great) but that she is only promoting gay relationships/sex in obscene, violent, and sadomasochistic ways?

Do you feel that this is an accurate representation of your love life? Does it bother you that gays are stereotyped as only engaging in s&m/rough-type sex?

like, why don't we portray gay sex as being sweet, tender, and romantic? like straight relationships?

why is gaga not promoting that kind of gay relationship?

* feel free to challenge my argument

Becca

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Ah-Mais-Lis.BlogSpot.Com said...

Hey Tavie !
What's Up ?
I See You In The Grazzia That's a Mag You Know ? & I See You Too In The Documentary Who I Am Too " Mode In The Teenagers " Mélinda Triana Canal + In France . But You Are In My Favorites Blogs , Come I Patient Too.
So Take Care Miss *

Stacy said...

You got my thoughts spot on. Like, no joke yuh. I was also underwhelmed by the video, and I thought it was pushing itself to some sort of edge.

Criteriamour said...

I mostly agree, except for the "try to be all diverse" comment. I like diverse names on state tests, it's inclusive.

Dulcie Emerson said...

I cannot stand the woman. She's basically as bland a pop princess as Cascada, just rebranded. Dancing like a porn star in a 8 minute long music video does not make her a feminist but a purveyor of raunch culture!

Dulcie Emerson said...

This sounds like Eurovision. How can anyone even be discussing her alleged 'controversy'?! She's a joke!

cancercowboy said...

@Big Apple Grafix -i don't have a blog. wanted to, but always seem to be short on time.

@Mathilda -Thank you

Juan Martin said...

Alejandro, Roberto and Fernando are stereotypical Latin names. I think one of the purpoise of the video is to get close to the latin audience.

kristy eléna said...

meh. there were things about the video i liked, then things i didn't like. i think katy perry saying that people shouldn't use blasphemy as entertainment is funny, so i got a laugh out of that.

more importantly, i adore daria. i wish more people would talk about that more often. i want to know your favorite episode.

hasoon said...

Madonna kind of did invent Christianity, actually..

Just, you know. The other Madonna.

Jenn said...

She's channeling Wendy O Williams and Warhol here, too.

Her videos are so mesmerizing.

Ezra said...

I agree with you in saying that LAdy Gaga is refreshing but to an extent. I'm not going to lie you can find me listening and singing along to her songs too.But as far as originality goes it's so overrated. When you really look at previous artists styles,like Madonna or Kelis shes totally copied them. & her music isnt even "unique" its just her persona, so in essence shes not that unique to begin with.

phaedraismyname said...

Yes, in fact she's interesting, but the person is not really her music, because her music is really the kind of music that...oh my, how can i say "music" so many times ?

Julia Alvarez said...

love the song,love lady gaga and you taby!
kisses from spain!

my blog:http://nobodysperfectdontyouthinkso.blogspot.com/

Alice said...

Your blog is cool! Congrat s.

Just wanted to point out somthing about the names used in this video.Roberto, Alejandro and Fernando are not stereotypical Asian-sounding name at all!. They are Italian and Spanish. I'm Italian, by the way. Roberto is pretty much only Italian, Fernando both and Alejandro is Spanish but the Italian version is really similar (Alessandro.

Keep on going like this gal!

Anastassia Chepelkevitch said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3N7jUsNorn0&feature=fvst

it sounds like it, you have got to admit. Love Gaga anyways.

Anastassia Chepelkevitch said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3N7jUsNorn0&feature=fvst

it sounds like it, you have got to admit. Love Gaga anyways.

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isis said...

so don't really know what i can say that hasn't already been said about this topic but i have NOT nor will NOT watch this video. but i have heard/read everyone saying basically the same thing: gaga needs to either stop doing things Madonna already did or claim her as her only source of inspiration. needless to say, i have gotten over this obsession with gaga. i still admire her for everything she has done and everything she has worn on her head and not on her body and all that blah blah blah. yeah, we get it gaga. i'm just over this obsession the rest of the world has with her.

i.c. blogspot said...

I've been on the fence about GAGA for a long time as well. When her first hit "Just Dance" in 2008 came out, I was traveling Europe and was all about the dance music while I was partying...

Then I felt she became TOO mainstream... "oh no we have another Britney on our hands" or something like that...

Then there were the clothes and many outrageous outfits and hats and wigs etc etc... and I was like well that is different... is it just marketing or does this women have a vision?!?!?!?! Without a doubt I was intrigued.

OK so after much self debate, I watched her interview on Oprah and came to understand her craft, true vision and pure talent. I dont love all her songs or every video, but I think she is extremely talented non the less and has a pure artistic vision which is like no other.

Well said and great post!

That is all I gots to say about that.

Good night Tavi!

xx

Sheena said...

I love Lady Gaga. A true entertainer. I didn't mind the video and never saw what the fuss was about. People and celebs claim blasphemy but yet they don't follow the laws of religion themselves so where do they come off crusifying Gaga for including it in her video?

theboywithtears said...

I'm sorry to say this but Madonna was like a hundred years ago. Her last big item was her kiss with Britney and that was 2003. I was still a baby then. A new generation has come and they barely have a clue who this Madonna person is. They think her best single was “4 Minutes” or even worse “Celebration”. Pop music was getting boring. And since Gaga’s here, things are changing. I mean… you really think Katy would be running around with blue hair if there was no Gaga? It’s not her best video. But when people talk about it, it’s good. The public is always right. People are reading this blog and thinking “who the hell is this stupid little girl thinking she knows fashion”. But they are reading the shit. It’s the same for Gaga’s new video. Madonna was hated, Gaga is hated. But we all know: it are the haters that make you famous.

Ms Polevshchikova said...

LITTLE TAVI MAYBE YOU ARE TOO YOUNG TO KNOW BUT "Alejandro Fernando, and Roberto" ARE NOT "Stereotypical Asian-Sounding Names" THOSE ARE SPANISH... you could have said any other nationality like italian or any other old latin-speakers countries in the Mediterraneo (Europe) maybe but you went for the asians which has nothing to do, lmao. Besides that I see your point and i agree.

Gabija said...

"Alejandro, Fernando, Roberto, Stereotypical Asian-Sounding Name"
- what are you talking about? since when these names are asian????
nonsense

iaminparis said...

Hello!
I am Naomi and I live in Paris. Excuse me if my English is not perfect then!
I totally agree with you: Lady Gaga is good, I like her music and her clothes...omg!
But that is so true: she draws some of her inspiration from Madonna (in bed with Madonna, for exemple) and I am glad you say it too because none of my friends agree with it!

Anyway, if you need a guide in Paris, contact me! (kiding) or just check it out: http://pariswayoflife.wordpress.com/
Bye Bye.

LaMalinxe said...

Actually Alejandro, Fernando and Roberto aren't stereotypicall asian-sounding names...they are stereotypicall SPANISH names, which by the way reminds me what i thought when i saw Gaga's video. i think she basically copied the looks of like a virgin (and surroundings) and the music at 'la isla bonita' (spanish again, hmm...) and, of course it was no homage, it's just an 'i-intend-to-make-you-talk-about-me-COPY'...

LaMalinxe said...

Actually Alejandro, Fernando and Roberto aren't stereotypicall asian-sounding names...they are stereotypicall SPANISH names, which by the way reminds me what i thought when i saw Gaga's video. i think she basically copied the looks of like a virgin (and surroundings) and the music at 'la isla bonita' (spanish again, hmm...) and, of course it was no homage, it's just an 'i-intend-to-make-you-talk-about-me-COPY'...

RubyMel said...

I know I am the zillionth commenter, but I wanted to say I agree with your comment. And I try to think of why I can't get on the Gaga bandwagon as well. I think everyone, maybe Gaga herself, are pushing the Gaga as the second coming of Madonna and it just isn't. It has to be organic and it doesn't feel like it is to me.

idealistico said...

I think your best take on the issue is how Lady Gaga excels in being unoriginal, but with a twist.

I just love the fact the she made outrageous so mainstream. I guess that will shake things fashion-wise, which would probably take us back to Calvin Klein 90's. But then, it is about time.

Sian. said...

I love GaGa, it's just little kids are watching this and some of it's not completely suitable for that. I really think she should feature more of her awesomely crazy clothes in her videos. Saying that, the woman doesn't half get us all talking whether it be about her music or important world issues.

raiknight said...

I'm still on the fence about Gaga. I'm a musician myself and tho I like to commend that avante garde and risk takers in the industry, I find her all too contrived. She's taking all the proper avenues to "shock" and "wow" people which makes it all seem very bored. I think that is why a lot of it comes off seeming like Madonna. What road has not been previously paved by the music greats? Gaga is just a reaction. Right now, she fits into a musical hole, we have no one like her on the scene and it's refreshing only in that it's nostalgic. She doesn't excite me, and if it wasn't for the clothing and costumes, she would be nothing but another rattling mouth.

Emma :) said...

lady gaga is sooo over the top...

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tarin2sexi4u said...

ok so i hope you read this comment and know that GAGA is original and not unoriginal in any way, shape, or form, she follows her muses and inspiration [which is madonna, bowie, and grace jones] but in NO way "copies" them. if she was a copycat, she'd wouldnt tell everyone she's inspired by these ppl and she'd do the exact same thing, which she's not. she made the alejandro song out of her fear of sex but the video has little relation to the song as its about the army's "dont ask dont tell" policy and catholicism and its hate towards homosexuality, hence the bowl cuts and and her showing their are so many things that keep the culture back due to those barriers. thats why her video is dark she is REALLY nothing like Madonna especially in bad romance, thats just a case of makeup and red being the new "nude" for her taste. i wish ppl would stop comparing them [or gaga to any other artist for that matter], madonnas music and gaga's music go in completely different directions of sound and gaga's image is alternative to madonnas eccentric, madonna may have BROUGHT over the top, but gaga completely spills over into her own universe and there's no stopping it. In this way, music is madonna,but lady gaga is art. and as for copying dont blame it on the artist, and this has nothing to do with gaga since she doesnt, but how many artist have you seen get noticed for attempting to use style and electronic music [which they never had or was different]before lady gaga became an overnight sensation?? not many, and thats on the part of music producers and directors for leading them in a direction just to appeal to the popular and not their own originality, its all inspiration and some artist still prove original just as gaga does.

:)