11.5.10

can i just say:

I kind of thought that Terry Richardson would stop doing certain things and taking certain kinds of pictures after that whole episode, but apparently not! I wrote this Friday night because I had just read what Olivier Zahm had to say about it, but figured that since nothing bad had come out of Richardson in a while, I'd save it. But then this happened. And so:

Most of you have probably read about the Terry Richardson malarky. If not, here you are. I have reason to believe these people because it clearly doesn't make them look too good or their agency too happy if they publicly confront someone with so much power. And lots of people in fashion, many people I really respect, have jumped to his defense. The most common arguments from these folks and Internet commentators point fingers at the barely legal girl who has been pressured into taking her clothes off for photos that will be published in magazines and online.

Ah, blaming the victim. A personal favorite of mine!

"You can always say no. It's the girl's fault for not saying no. There is a choice. The girl could've refused."...the girl should never be put in the position in which she has to refuse. I mean, sure, she could just not say yes, but there's another person to blame, and that would be the person who could just not pressure a girl into performing those kinds of acts. Remember him? And for what reason, other than selfish pleasure? Nevermind the emotional damage it can do to a person. I don't think its purpose is in the quality of the photos -- nudity in fashion is no longer shocking. And as for the kind of things he has asked models to do to him, you don't need to get some action in order to take a head-on picture of someone against a wall.

"It's fun! Uncle Terry said it's fun and everyone likes it!" Know who didn't say it's fun and everyone likes it? The people who had the opposite of fun and did not like it at all! Who are risking a lot in saying what they're saying, whether it's true or not, and I kind of feel like it's true! Go reread those articles! (The stuff with Abbey Lee and others -- I can believe that that's fun and it wasn't manipulative or anything, because they've said so themselves. But as for the people who have done the same things but without all the fun and willingness and have talked about it, I'll take their word.)

"But it's ART! He's an ARTISTE!" OH, my bad! Sorry, I'll just step out of your way and let you continue with your Disturbed Genius/Troubled Artist Technique of sexually harassing people, then! In the name of like, art, and stuff! But I kind of think that morality > art. It doesn't matter if his photographs are good or bad, because this situation has to be looked at as Older Man Taking Advantage Of Young Girl and not Older Man Who Did These AWESOME Shots Of Shaun White In The Last Issue Of Rolling Stone Taking Advantage Of Young Girl.

"That's what the models should expect. It's Terry Richardson." Really? This is where we are now? That's normal? That's acceptable? That's even encouraged and applauded as these same photos that took intense emotional toll on a person are put into the pages of a magazine? Look, I will never be able to be like "Oh, haha, typical pervy Terry!" and find it "ironic" or "funny" or "cool" or anything, the way others can.

But oh, I guess I have just lost my mind. I am just mean. Says Olivier Zahm:
"They are just, uh, they have lost their mind. It’s totally ridiculous and embarrassing for them. The women who attacked Richardson, it’s really sad. To me, it is really sad because Terry loves so much people [sic], not only women, he’s such a sweetheart that I can’t understand how people can be so mean. I don’t even see their point."
The point is that this kind of thing keeps happening, as we learned from that article today. If it was really nothing to be upset about, I have the feeling he wouldn't have removed all the sketchy photos off of his blog days after these articles began popping up. So maybe he knows how wrong it is - is he sorry? No, he's "hurt." He never responded to any allegations further than that. Oh, but one person did call him up to ask about his recent photos, and he replied, "Get a life."

I don't think I or anyone else who was so disgusted upon hearing about such awful experiences were just trying to be "mean." It's not bullying or trolling or the same as writing "Miley can't sing!!!1!" in the comment section of a Youtube video. It's being concerned and infuriated at how jaded someone has to be to actually find this kind of thing acceptable. Some of the models could barely speak English, PS.

And, let's clarify: you don't love women just because you have sex with them and like taking pictures of their ladyparts. I'm not saying that's all Richardson does, but "love" entails "respect" and also "the basic human decency to not use pictures of someone's lady parts for your photography show without her permission" and also "the basic human decency to not pressure a girl into giving you a hand job because OH MY GOD I WILL LITERALLY NOT BE ABLE TO PRESS THE FLASH BUTTON ON MY CAMERA UNLESS YOU TAKE NOTICE OF THE FACT THAT I HAVE NO PANTS ON. ALSO I'M A PROFESSIONAL."

Some people have also criticized the victims who have spoken out about their experiences with Richardson for things like sounding too flippant in retelling it or in their reaction to it. So because someone who could easily be embarrassed about what happened tries to sound relaxed during their interview or didn't tell their agency about what happened (not like that would be really humiliating or anything,) they deserve these kinds of things?

Sigh.

I know this won't do anything. I kind of thought that the Not Okay stuff would end after all that hoopla but not really, apparently! And my writing this won't change anything, and it probably does not make me look really good, and I can already see the comments reading "You feminists are so uptight! Let a stranger manipulate you into doing weird things to him for once in your life, gosh!" (Even though I hope there aren't people who view this as a strictly feminist issue-it's a HUMAN issue. As in, this shouldn't be happening to any human, no matter their gender, though it's worsened by the fact that being male gave him more power.) And it's not like I'm like "That Richardson better not show his face in this town again!" or am hellbent on making sure he NEVER WORKS! EVER! and HAHAHAHA, no one has that power (other than the magazines who ask him to take nude shots of 17 year olds. But magazines, that's your shit and your message you're giving thousands of people, you work it out!) I mean, mostly I was just really really not feeling all this and felt like writing about it and wanted to let it out and take advantage of the fact that I run this bloggy blog myself. Maybe I really should just "get a life," though.

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gabi palmano said...

iv'e always found him creepy, i just feel sorry for the models, :((((


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Aunt Eggma said...

that model's nipples are being pinched by terry on the cover of that magazine. how fucking disturbing.

this era of flash and minimalistic arty hipster bullshit has run its course.

pomegranate season said...

You're brave for writing this, especially considering your "status" of sorts (considering the certain industry professionals who read your blog). That said, kudos to you for having the balls. You have a platform, girl, and I love to see that you're using it.

From what I've seen of the whole debacle is enough to say that you're already preaching to the converted with me. But go you. Seriously. And I'm not being sarcastic. This is badass.

syc said...

i really like terry richardson's photos a lot.. theyre always pretty stunning. that said, i think you're absolutely right. whatever makes an artist create beautiful art has NADA to do with what makes them a good (and lawful) person. the "he's a troubled genius" defense is bull shit when it comes to real life. if he can't make his art without exploiting and harassing women then he needs to face that. art is fantasy but it is made and lives in reality..

The Tights that Bind said...

Tavi, I'm so glad you wrote this.

I'm so bothered by the way that Terry Richardson excuses himself by saying that he gives the girl the power when they don't want to get naked by stripping himself and then giving her the camera (nevermind the other four photographers in the room)...right. That's what a nervous, barely legal, probably disgusted girl wants to make her feel comfortable -- Terry Ricardson's naked penis.

This is the one issue that modeling agencies and magazines can no longer ignore. Way to bring it to the forefront.

Katie and Kelci said...

totally agree with your stance on the issue. I was so disappointed in abbey lee and others for their defense of him, you can totally see the "bully" effect that clearly takes place in the modeling world, when if certain models put future jobs at risk by coming out with this & others like abbey lee consider that particular model a prude of some sort is so sad!!

Gracie. said...

good for you tavi. very well said

Kate Rose said...

That man-should I even call him a man? No, then, I shall refer to him as a demented child. That demented child disgusts me and is a disgrace to art.

Cory said...

It's hard to know who to believe when there is so much second hand information and it's so easy to perpetuate rumors but instinctively Terry Richardson seems like a TOTAL creep. Of course, this kind of thing has been going on forever, just look at the Runaways and how they were manipulated and taken advantage of by their manager and they were like 13 and 14 years old!

In a supposedly professional environment, everyone should know better than to facilitate the kind of sleazery Richardson is accused of. However, his entire "professional" career has been hinged around and encouraged for being overtly sexual and indecent; he didn't hide that kind of behavior, he caught in on film and was congratulated for it, paid for it and made into a pop culture hero of sorts.

American Apparel (and the associated consumers culture) is largely responsible for his rise to fame which gave him the influence necessary to be...influential so I have to wonder how people who praised him for being a creep on camera feel about him being a creep off camera or if it even comes as a real surprise at all.

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laura said...

Terry Richardson is a disgusting. He should be behind bars for his treatment of young women. There is no place in the artistic community for people who don't respect and value the most vulnerable among us. It saddens me that he has been able to profit off of these women. But there is hope if these women are given a voice and a platform to speak about the harassment they have faced.

Fashion Intel said...

Tavi, you are so smart and that is why I truly appreciate your blog. Keep asking those questions!

Gun Street Girl said...

I nearly barfed in my mouth reading that article. I hate that things like this are STILL happening, and people are STILL blaming the women.

brb, gonna go put on my RAGEY FEMINIST superhero costume.

Blindcopy said...

love you for that post! you're absolutely right: it's about professionalism and does not have anything to do with love, art or fashion.

and exactly: look at all the other famous "nudity photographers"... This Terry issue is also not about nudity!

Well said!

Aubrey Mayne said...

I do photography at work and work with tons of different models. It's crazy how they all have stories about sketchy crap happening to them.

The fashion industry needs to start respecting women!

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inkarlcerating said...

go TAVI. team respect and dignity here!! love u ,

thats our, tiger!

blukats said...

I hate it when some people think there should be two sets of laws, ones for the rich and famous and one for the rest of us.

If he was not well known the guy would have been arrested already.

Got to wonder why some approve of his behavior...I know he's not the only person who has used his status inappropriately.

Olivia Isabella. said...

I think you fully exhausted that arguement, and after anyone read this there is no way they could support him.
UO x
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Miss Thing said...

get it sister! so smart and right on. sisterhood is powerful! & putting your voice out there encourages others to do the same. xo

Sarah said...

Tavi, you probably hear things like this so often it annoys the crap out of you, but I am so impressed that a girl your age not only has such a good head on her shoulders but is able to write so well and engage her audience. I am a 25-year-old, college-educated mother of three and I find myself reading your blog and going, "Man, I want to be this girl when I grow up!"

I always enjoy your blog, but to see you tackle such a serious issue and to get it so RIGHT, just makes me proud of you, if you can be proud of someone you don't personally know. Seriously, for a minute I could have sworn I was reading Sady Doyle -- you kicked ass with this. Be proud of yourself!

GRACEDCHIN said...

It really saddens me that it's considered a "feminist" issue - those are things that should [completely, completely, completely] disturb ANY decent human being. The fashion industry is steeped in so much misogyny that things like this are acceptable.
I second the comments of the people above - it's brave of you to put this out there. If anything though, it's made me enjoy reading your blog even more!
It also made me sad that he's got Anna Wintour's support.


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DuckyGirl said...

Took the words right out of my mouth!
This made my week.
:D
I love it when people speak the truth. LOUDLY too.

Ann said...

Very well said tavi.
I totally agree with you.
Someone's gotta speak up for this kind of issues. It's a shame most people just ignore it when it's happening right before their eyes. Those people who actually has the power to stop this kind of things from happening.

alex said...

Well done on using your blog and your voice to be brave enough to write this. I agree with everything you said and could not have said it any better myself.
There is still a LONG LONG way for women to go before we are respected and valued. I myself NEED, and I know others do to, for people like you to write these things purely to remind us that the things we see, whether it's a Terry Richardson photograph or shitty ad on TV, are not okay. We are not being "uptight" or overly dramatic, so thank you for reminding me personally.

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Just Another Londoner said...

This is the most comprehensive criticism I've read so far. Agree with you on every point; well said. xoxo

Eleanor said...

TAVVVIIII !!! please don't excuse yourself. we need more of this. please. 'Uncle Terry' and the like should be shaking in their perverted boots. we need to THINK - thank you for getting people to think - or fashion risks falling yet further into the apolitical doldrums.
brava.

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Shelley Noble said...

no, you're completely right.

Roz said...

Tavi, you have once again gone even higher up in my estimation!
You'd think that after this scandal was made public, it would have caused serious repercussions in the fashion world.
But obviously not.
How anyone could leap to defend him is beyond me! Every point you've made here is spot on, and as Olivia said above - anyone who had any doubts before, surely can't after reading this.
You can imagine that some of the great fashion photographers would be rolling in their graves.

Personally, I quite dislike 'sexy' shoots anyway, but if I heard that something like that has happened behind the scenes I would be appalled.
Models want to do well and get ahead in their career. And with it being quite a competative job, I'm sure many aren't sure what to do in that situation. A photographer, or anyone else for that matter should never abuse that position of trust.
Does have a clear conscience? Because I don't know how anyone could do things like that without realising the consequences of their actions.

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erin k. said...

being a feminist is just believing that women are worthwhile humans who deserve to be treated as such. nothing to be ashamed of - and nothing for anyone to be afraid of either... unfortunately sexism still exist, and is perhaps worse now than it has been in a while... just sneakier. check out:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2010/jan/25/natasha-walter-feminism-sexism-return

looks like a worthwhile read.

The Misunderstood said...

In the first article you linked, there is a picture were terry has his head inbetween this girl legs and he looks like a psychopath. I can't describe his facial expression but argh he is just really creepy ...

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Lisa said...

Coming out of my lurker status to say, thanks so much for writing this Tavi. I really admire you for standing up for what you believe in.

Regarding Terry:

I already posted about my disgust today in the Jezebel comments, but I feel compelled to reiterate here. There is nothing original about this man. He is clearly a misogynist that takes pleasure in the humiliation of extremely young women.

Whether or not these women consented to the shoot makes no difference. They are probably trying to get recognized within the fashion world, and consider it a wonderful opportunity to work with such a famous photographer. Terry is taking advantage of that fact. He is the one with the power, unfortunately.

Again, bravo for bringing this issue to your blog. I really love reading your posts.

sophie b said...

I want to echo what Sarah and others have already said above. I'm sure you're probably tired of people commenting on your age, but as someone in my mid-twenties I am such a fan of the things that you write and the way that you write them, and this post just cements that admiration. I just wanted to let you know. And this:

the basic human decency to not pressure a girl into giving you a hand job because OH MY GOD I WILL LITERALLY NOT BE ABLE TO PRESS THE FLASH BUTTON ON MY CAMERA UNLESS YOU TAKE NOTICE OF THE FACT THAT I HAVE NO PANTS ON. ALSO I'M A PROFESSIONAL.

was just a total RIGHT ON SISTER moment for me. Keep up the good work.

Tina Frey Designs said...

Good work on writing about this! I am glad to hear you are speaking up about how creepy Terry Richardson is. Believe it or not, even without reading all the latest news in your blog, I have often found his photos a little disturbing and quite degrading and unflattering to women. This really confirms my suspicions of what comes across in the images. This is not about nudity or sexy photos since nudity in photos and art is quite normal and can be quite beautiful. His photos are beyond what is artistic and on a whole different level of CREEPY!! I hope he is reading this.

Moya said...

Thank you so much for posting this, and sharing your views. It does make a difference that people can talk about these things in a rational and honest way.

Maggie said...

Bravo for posting this. I think it's obvious he took advantage of a lot of young girls and of course the blame the victim mentality (WHICH WILL NEVER DIE APPARENTLY) has taken hold again and we're actually supposed to feel sorry for Terry and call the girls naive or worse. I mean, come on. He's a grown man and he needs to take responsibility for his actions. Even if he didn't *mean* to hurt anyone, he should realize that he ended up hurting many people nevertheless, and maybe, just maybe he owes them an apology.

kOoKy pLuM said...

Nicely written... i agree with what ur saying..

Go Tavi!

Lisa said...

Go tavi

Lola said...

In response to, 'I know this won't do anything.', I think it really has and Im really glad you posted this. For someone your age to be able to see how seriously twisted this whole situations is that really just slaps all those idiots in the face that this isnt just a "Terry Richardson thing", but actually really fucked up. I'm even more happy that someone with as much style and status as you can see the ridiculousness in all of this, that you're not biased just because of the cool models that he shoots (because yes I love the models that he works with but I do find him to be a fucking creep.)

Finally, our youth is not going to waste; you are amazing.

Stephanie Chow said...

THANK YOU. No seriously, THANK YOU for saying this out loud and being so direct, unforgiving, and succinct about it. There is no fucking reason why anyone should support that man and his ridiculous excuse for "art" or "photography." It is appalling that such a fucked up excuse for a man has that kind of prestige and power. I'm disgusted and will never buy anything with his pictures in it.

Seriously, thank you so much Tavi! I have never commented on your blog before, but this was too well-written for me to keep my mouth shut and continue on my way.

Elena said...

Maybe one of the best things I've read about this whole thing? I think you bring up a great point with the victim blaming. It's incredible that he is not being seen as at LEAST 50% responsible for everything that has gone on (when obviously he is more than 50% responsible for the exploitation of these women).

Acid Beth said...

This is such a great article. You're absolutely right about all. It's just crazy that photographers have such power that they can force young girls into doing what they are told to. Keep up the good work!

Franziska said...

I don't care if this is "fashionable" or "creative" or whatever you want to call it, but when a photographer tries to take pictures of a nude girl when he's nude himself then alarmbells (should) go off. And that's regardless of the model's age. I find it disgusting that pretty much everyone in the fashion industry knows about this and nobody dares to say anything. I wonder what Anna Wintour would do if her daughter came home and said, she was photographed by a naked photographer.

Catherine said...

Tav, you *have* a life, and it gives me a lot of respect for you that you wrote this completely badass post!

It's the same sort of sickening "she was asking for it" attitude that allows so few men to be convicted of rape etc, it needs to change, and the only way it will is by people speaking out about it, not being "yeah oh well he's an artist and it wasn't like "rape rape"" arrrrgh... I know it's not quite the issue you're on about here, but it's related.

It's fashionable to deny being a feminist these days, but screw that, women and girls deserve respect and equality. Why should we feel like we're being uncool by saying that?! Fucked. Up.

patuxxa said...

I must say that I absolutely admire you and the way you write and articulate all your arguments. There's nothing I can really add to it.

Jon said...

Tavi, you're dead-on correct, as usual.

What I believe: Richardson is a manipulative creep.

What I know: raw, minimalistic, snapshot-esque photography can still be wonderful even after years of genre dilution by talent deficient hacks like Richardson.

jenn said...

absolutely wonderfully put. couldn't have said it better myself - what horrifies me most is all the influential, high up, respected fashion players who are making excuses for him. there is NO excuse.
jenn.x

Candice said...

Very well said! Thank you. :)

Clare said...

So glad you wrote this, well said! Some of Richardson's photographs, where the models are consenting are great but after hearing about this it just entirely makes me wonder about all of the others...

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rs said...

you are right. i really support a point of view at this level in the fashion industry. serious, spontaneous, with respect but at the same time with all the energy of someone who is really angry/sad/tired of this episode that we are just watching.
BRAVO, many brains will follow y girl. u surprise me with this, i´m like many other readers that now will have another point of view on what u are communicating. it s not just fashion trends, its a bout act with integrity.

S CH said...

he is amking good money, that's all

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Þomeline said...

Thank you and congrats on voicing out Terry's bullshit. The more people talk about, the more the magazines will understand that SUPPORTING A HUGE CREEPER IS NOT COOL. My heart goes out to those poor girls he abuses and are made to feel like it's their fault. Perv, perv, perv. Terry, you're a sad & deranged little boy.

Dobbygirl said...

Well said, Tavi!

Breathless said...

Well said!

ami said...

Thank you for writing about this issue so eloquently.
Is there some sort of action that can be taken against this man? Something that people who aren't powerful fashion moguls or magazine editors can do?
I think, in the very least, a petition should have been started.

Re said...

THANKYOU Tavi! I've never commented before but I love you for writing this. :)

To be honest, I've never liked Richardson's stuff. He always radiated a kind of juvenile, frat boy attitude to women, sex and nudity. (And no, it isn't about being a prude. Compare his photos to the power of female sexuality that's evident in the work of someone like Ellen von Unwerth and you'll see what I mean.)

Thanks for not making lame excuses, for not toeing the line or laughing it off or attacking the girls who complained. Far too many have done this already. It upsets me when I see people like Richardson being given a free pass to behave as they like just because they're "talented" or "artistic" or considered somehow important. (A slightly different situation I know but it reminds me rather a lot of that obnoxious petition that far too many people I admire (Tilda, sigh) signed last year saying Polanski should be set free because he, like, made some really great films and hey, it happened a long time ago).

Rachel said...

Clearly from the comments you're preaching to the choir, but I suspect that others who may not have agreed have at least read what you wrote, and I hope they understand.

I completely agree. Fashion is such a dog-eat-dog world and if you're shooting with Terry Richardson and you barely speak English and are trying to really make it in fashion, fuck yeah you're going to feel pressured into doing what he says - there is such an unbalanced power dynamic there. So the pressure is on the one with the power - Terry - to act like a decent human being. Sure, if he's shooting Gisele or someone he can probably cannot get away with being a perv, but any lesser known model is easy prey. It disgusts me.

Also, Tavi, do you read Jezebel? You should.

Zoe_Flood said...

I hate terry richardson, I always have, always will, his photography is shit, and he is just a pervert. and probably hurts animals. I dont get the whole appeal of his life style and that whole side of things. I hope that he gets whats coming to him, for all his years of debauchery.

artistjenna said...

I wanted to thank you for your article on Terry R and Jamie.
It is very common for women to be victimized in the work place.
If more women were treated fairly and encouraged about speaking the
truth of their negative experiences it would probably make it easier
to be honest about them. I think most people have experienced
something similar to what Jamie has gone through with Terry. Reading
her story causes us to relive those bits of our own lives as the
subject(victim). Terry clearly is an artist because he evokes emotion
and curiosity from people as they experience the situational trauma in
his pictures from his perspective. His art is popular because it
reminds us of our own experiences. Which is easier as a view then as
the subject. It is sad though that he feels the need to inflict new
damaging experiences on young people to justify his own and exploit
the subject and the viewer. Not everyone wants to be like you Terry,
hardened and painful. Thank you Jamie for you story it is too bad
people want to experience these things from Terry's perspective and
become offended when it is brought to light from the victims
perspective.
You are not alone Jamie.
The future is not like the past.
xo

JD said...

Thanks for posting. Somehow, I find the fashion community's embrace and defense of Richardson even more upsetting than his behavior itself. His work isn't sexy, it's not provocative, and it sure as hell doesn't make me want to buy clothes. I feel like young girls and nudity have become so commonplace that lots of fashion folks have become completely desensitized to the human aspect of it. Thanks again for speaking up.

Monique R. said...

Hey Tavi,
I agree & thank you for saying it.
Monique

up and down town said...

great and valuable post.
I HOPE SOMEONE IS LISTENING!!!!
if a smart 14yo gets what's what, the magazine editors sure as hell need to either figure it out, or take their cue from you!

Miss Topanga said...

On the contrary -- I think this article makes you look very good. I love people who aren't afraid to speak out -- even if it's about a famous person. That's real courage. Good for you ;)

Sofie Marie said...

Thank you for bringing this to the limelight.I have heard a little,but never known the full extent.I think its superb how you try to change things,and I think that maybe you can go somewhere with this.
I mean....I know to all of us(ie the ones reading your blog) think your some teenage super god,but you are not.I understand that you do not have the kind of power of the likes of the editors who employ Richardson.
But still,I just feel frustrated that we cannot do something.Is there any way we can prevent this?
Is there any way our voices can be heard? Should we not try to organise something-a blogging revolution! A unification against Richardson and the likes.
I hope we can do something.I want to be involved.
Oh,sigh.
Hum,sorry for my uneloquent wording.
S
onetoomanywishes.blogspot.com

HAL said...

I just watched Empire Records the other night. It's one of my favorites still.

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Deua~* said...

I really could not agree with you more Tavi. I read your blog constantly and it always amazes me that you, being so young and all, can have much better informed opinions than many adults in the fashion industry. Congratulations.

I hope your post her DOES make a difference and people start realizing that women are not just things that look good in a magazine (clothes on or off).

Danny said...

Terry Richardson is grosss. He's a 40 yr old hipster perv.

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flowermash said...

Thanks for putting this all in one place. Maybe it will make it a little more comprehensive and at least make the reader feel educated in their vote of "creep or not."

I find richardson and charney so unforgivably creepy.

human said...

Tavi, I think you are a strong young woman with a bright feminist future ahead. I'm glad that you are intelligent and brave enough not to jump on board with the victim-blaming jerks who think it's ok to do whatever you want to a woman and then just tell her that she deserved it. I've been reading your blog for awhile and have never been more impressed with you than I am right now. Kudos!

betina said...

Say that to anna wintour, even a prude magazine like vogue loves terry richardson. And i don't see he working any less because of this alegations.

Hannah Mudge said...

Great post and SO right. You're brave for writing this but I'm so glad you did. I'm loving your posts at the moment!

flunkmaster said...

I actually like Terry Richardson's photos, especially his portraits, but it's still unbelievable to me that he's allowed to behave the way he does towards his models because apparently that's the prerequisite for him to make "great art". If he can't take good pictures without exploiting 17-year-olds - TOUGH.

That models are expected to put up with this kind of shit because it's seen as their job is disgusting. In any other profession they would have been able to sue for sexual harrassment.

fdarin said...

100% agree

Helen said...

I love you. You are so smart and you say things so well.
I already got worked up over this while discussing it on another blog, here: http://www.godammit.com/2010/05/10/christopher-lee-sauve-what-a-fucking-cunt™/

"I can’t understand how people can be so mean". It's really mindblowing, how people can have an attitude like this. This is more or less exactly the same thing as blaming a rape victim based on a short skirt. It makes me nauseous.

Cherie said...

I'm really glad you're not blaming the models, even though they're big girls doesn't mean they can't get pressured into these kinds of things. But what about their fathers and their friends, huh? What do THEY think about this?? That just makes me sad all over again, because their lives become so messed up, and really, it's just not worth it.

Boner said...

Discussion of this issue resulted in one of the biggest fights I've ever had with my boyfriend, and I wouldn't ever hesitate to call him a feminist. By the end of our battle my side was whittled down to, "You don't have any idea what it feels like to have a dick shoved in your face, do you?" (although I think that did finally get my point across). I'm ten years your senior and an English major and you still have me topped when it comes to eloquence and directness. Your argument was fantastic. Very nicely done.

quartzneptune said...

Thank you for writing this Tavi. Toward the vision of a culturally progressive fashion community-Onward!

hasoon said...

Your writing this makes you look wonderful.

Mallory said...

I totally agree with you!

Zadie Xa said...

Wow Tavi, what an inspiration you are to all FEMINISTS, BOTH WOMEN AND MEN. I admire your outspoken, yet extremely eloquent bravery. I think you are putting a very positive message for all the young ladies and fellas who read your blog on the regular. My god, how old are you? WORDS OF WISDOM AND INTELLIGENCE. I SALUTE YOU.

This Is Kami said...

Tavi, you fucking RULE for this. Thank you for being a girl and a respected fashion blogger and putting your foot down and not pussy-footing around the issue like so many people in the fashion industry. More voices like yours should be heard!

Lane said...

Please welcome another 40-something to your fold of fans, Tavi. Excellent post.

Sarky said...

i agree with you! that man is a sick individual! he should not only never work again..he should be in prison. any other man who took pictures like this would be considered a sex offender but just because this guy is a photographer means he can get away with it?? perposterous

Irene B said...

makes me sad reading about this disgusting person... :(

and I agree with you, Love entails Respect.
You´re really brave writing this post.

Denis said...

"maybe I should just 'get a life'...

You do have a life darling one, and it involves scruples and a moral compass by which you guide said life.

You are older than your years and I salute you...

Maryjohn

Holly said...

Writing this DOES make you look really good, because you are. This is such a predictably typical Roman Polanski-esque situation where a "great artist" has his ego fanned and all his abusive behaviour excused (venerated, even) as part of the package of his alleged awesomeness. Puke-making. Good for you Tavi.

elena said...

i totally share your point of view, i always thought his photos were vulgar . keep going like you do and i reeeaaaallyyy like your writing style :)

Sarah said...

I found this post and your blog through Jezebel.com. I just wanted to say that it's excellent and I completely agree. I also don't think you should worry about this post making you look bad. Terry Richardson and those who defend him, while simultaneously engaging in victim blaming, are the ones who look bad. I look forward to reading more of your blog, it's great to see a little feminism mixed in with all of the fashion commentary :-)

mandi said...

I. Love. You.

Kate said...

Good on you for writing this, Tavi. You did a wonderful job of keeping it coherent and logical, which is something that any debate like this always needs.

cayllan said...

Thank you, Tavi!

courtney zell said...

Tavi, so well written, you have a new fan!

melina bee said...

dear tavi,
In recent weeks, I have to admit to having read some... shall we criticism's of your blog (not b/c of this) on account of your young age. And this particular post has resulted in my total faith in you as a blogger and a person. I have in the past been a fan of TR as I do tend to have artistic tastes towards the disturbing/questionable. However, I have also had first hand experience with predators, the kind with the exact kind of logic you are describing here and through the links. I am amazed that you realize at so young an age the very murky and tender nuances of full consent. So many women into their early 20s and some their whole lives never do realize that consent is 100%, a YES and a YES. Even for those kinky folks for whom No is a Yes, (cause I am not judging kinky people, never ever), most people into that kinda stuff would say that Trust and consent are key to making it an erotic versus victimizing experience. Coercion does not create consent. So, if it means anything to you, your post has meant a lot to me and helped me clarify my own position and have hope for the future of fashion, like one that centers on the word YES.

aimee_not_amy said...

It's so sad when a man abuses his power to feed his libido. Thank you, Tavi, for speaking out on this issue!

cancercowboy said...

first of all, innocent until proven guilty. for the sake of argument lets just assume he did what he's accused of. and i don't find it that hard to believe, nor am i really surprised. anyone remembers the old saying that power corrupts? its as true as ever. and the imbalance in power between an aspiring young girl and a well-connected big shot photographer is plain to see. casting couch rings a bell? yeah, all prejudices and unproven allegations. maybe even conspiracy theories, mmh? heck, i'm getting angry right now. and i somewhat doubt that this Richardson affair is an isolated incident. and its not creepy. i think it at least borders on a crime. sexual assault, anyone?
just that you ponder the thought that you may have to defend yourself for writing about stuff that would be considered a crime in almost every other setting (imagine this happening in college 'tween a teacher and a student) made me throw up a little.
but hey, models are just puppets and are treated accordingly. sexual harassment, drugs, eating (and other) disorders; nobody ever gave a shit. the supply of girls and boys never wanes.
every once in a while we get a little scandal, after some time its back to status quo ante. i have to calm down now, but thank you for making me really angry. damn good post. sorry for my biased reply. wait, no, not really.

The Secretary said...

Tavi, this is so so so right. You're amazing.

lambandlynx said...

Hey Tavi,

I've been reading you for 2 years now and have never felt compelled to comment until today. But I pretty much freaked out with happiness to (finally!) see someone in the fashion world confronting this issue in a serious way, and from a feminist perspective that: a) takes the woman's claims SERIOUSLY instead of blaming her for being in the situation, agreeing to certain things, etc., and b) does not automatically apologize for Richardson just because he's a famous photographer with clout.

So, yeah. Thank you thank you thank you for writing this, because it really needed to be said. I'm sure that you have been a feminist all your life, even before you knew it had a name, but it's been totally exciting and inspirational to see you own it and claim it and talk about it on your blog. Never ever doubt the importance of that, the dialog and the possibility that you're changing even one person's mind.

(slightly longer and more profane post on this at my tumblr: http://borninflames.tumblr.com/post/593115439/and-lets-clarify-you-dont-love-women-just)

<3
l.

M said...

Also my first time posting a comment.

Keep on keeping on girl! I think it's awesome that you post this for the world to see, despite the fact that you run in these art/fashion circles. Once more, I'm impressed with your wonderful sense of self.

mrsw said...

Thanks, Tavi. Perfect summation as usual.

C.Lo said...

I have read spotlights and things on him before and he always creeped me out.

I'm really glad you have an ability to empathize with the young women he shoots. Some people who have never been in a situation like that can't seem to imagine what it must be like.

Thanks for speaking out out for them
i <3 you

Anastasia and Duck said...

If I weren't so pissed off about all of this and I weren't a boy and it weren't totally Spice Girls-sad, I'd shout GIRL POWER at ya.

xx
duck
http://anastasia-duck.blogspot.com

Verhext said...

Speaking out helps! Also, boycotting publications & brands that use him as a photographer -- I'd love to see a list!

Me said...

Richardson is disgusting, and its sad to see so many people in the fashion industry so accepting of his "art".

Speaking of which....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H68j1MhmOPs

cicilaw said...

Thank goodness you wrote about this. I saw the photos and I was shocked. There is a line between fashion, art and pornography and Terry Richardson has crossed it. He is disguising exploitation of young women under "fashion photography." He's giving the fashion industry a bad name. How can he not be behind bars at the moment? Watch, his monstrousity is going to splashed onto Law and Order: SVU. I just hope in that version, justice is seeked. It's great that you wrote about issues affecting girls like us (I'm 14 as well!). It may be controversial writing this post, but it's the right thing to do. You are like a role model to me! Keep blogging!

be inspired always said...

Great post. You don't have to justify yourself at the end, though. You (and the rest of the critics of his inappropriate behavior) have a very valid argument and you shouldn't care if anyone opposes your opinion. He's despicable.

m said...

Thank you for writing this.

Sunny Rising Leather said...

Oh, Tavi... You're such a force for good: thank you for writing this.

xo,
Allison

amahlia said...

tavi, i agree with everything you just said. and it really does make me fee sad knowing that a girl the same age, or younger, as me was going through something like an experience with terry and NO ONE was there to help her. i really hope he has to pay some consequences.

brightlightsbigcity said...

you're so right tavi. love you :)

Aimi said...

Brave words, Tavi! I respect you so much for not being afraid to write something like this publicly without being afraid of being called a "man hater" or something. Way too many woman my age (early 20s) are into the whole being down with chauvinism to look cool thing.

Becca D'Bus said...

Hey Tavi!


I agree with all that you're saying here, but I have to admit some resistance.


For me, there is no question that by all accounts of his behavior, Terry Richardson is predatory.


But, I do find a lot of his images to be very powerful, including the ones that we think of as creepy or disturbing. The question for me is this, can these images be created without the manipulation and problematic-consent issues?


I also feel like some of the comments on here seem to hint at an equally problematic ageism, yes, TR is older, a 40something even, that doesn't equate with "gross".


I also wonder what the public response would be if he were a straight and beautiful woman. I mean, what if Helena Christiansen (sp?) was responsible for this behavior, how would we respond?

Olivia S said...

Preach, girl.

Susan said...

Thank you for writing this, i'm glad someone with such a wide audience has spoken out so more people will know. Maybe someday I can shop at the stores he works for when he's behind bars

Mathilda said...

This is your life, Tavi. Writing is the life of a writer.

And you make your reader´s life better with your sense of justice that is far from obsolete morality.

I´m happy to see feminism come back through your young talented and lucid voice.

Thank you.

fashionforwriters.com said...

Thanks for this eloquent, smart, funny, witty, thoughtful response! I agree with every single thing you said and it's so hard to criticize any dude, (much less Terry Sleezerson) of sexually harassing women without the usual reaction of 'Wow you really don't get the concept of having harmless fun do you?' And as someone who has had harmless phone doing nude photoshoots, I would never have the impulse to shame someone else who didn't have harmless fun doing a nude photoshoot. We shouldn't deny models of having their own agency and wanting to do whatever it is that they wanted to do, but also we shouldn't deny models the right to say that they didn't want to do whatever it is someone like Terry Richardson wanted them to do. Anyway you're the smartest ever, and I wish everyone would read this post and realize how lame it is to keep defending Terry Richardson and also how really fucking lame it is that he posted about his 'hurt feelings' and how that shouldn't have squirrelsnutzipperfuck to do with any of the real issues at hand!

-Jenny

Loie Fuller said...

Thanks for bringing this issue to light. Yours is the only fashion blog I read, so I hadn't heard of this misogynistic turd until now. I'm sickened that people like that are even allowed to leave the house, never mind berate women with virtually no consequences. Are you really only 13? At 13, I was still wearing overalls over turtleneck sweaters and learning to formulate complex sentences, so you really impress me. Don't ever apologize for posting something that needs to be heard. I'm gonna go boycott some things now...and try not to vomit all over Terry's picture.

firefly said...

That guy is a CREEPY PERVERT VOYEUR and should just get mental help. And Tavi, if getting a different life means not talking about important issues, DON'T DO IT. Or you know what I mean.

fireflyworks.blogspot.com

Mimi said...

tavi you should NOT just get a life. i agree with you one hundred percent!
and you most definitely have a voice and it is a wonderful voice and this post is very important and i am very glad you wrote it.
that man is gross.
btdubs i LOVED your post a while back on beautiful nudity in photographs. the picture of the one girl sitting on a chair in the forest and there was sun? it was gorgeous gorgeous gorgeous.
this guy's nude photographs and the stories that accompany them make me nauseous!
thank you for saying this.

NoNameBlog said...

YOU GO TAVI!
Nobody should ever be put in the situations these young women were. We need to treat models with respect. Heck, EVERYONE deserves respect.

Say NO! to father swim coach scoutmaster PHOTOGRAPHER!!!

jennine said...

oliver is a creep. of course he would defend terry richardson.

no it's not 'embarrassing' for women to come forward and defend themselves against what's obviously fucked up.

what kind of circus goes on in that guys head? where would we be if people just stayed quiet in exploitation? history if full of people who fought back and won.

enough said.

runwayhippie.com said...

Well said Tavi! I couldn't agree more. It's really upsetting that Terry has to go and do something like that spread in The Journal. He's an incredible photographer and doesn't need to turn fashion photography into 80s feminist art or pornography. There is no need to blur the line between the three if you ask me. I can understand his friends coming to his defense but why not just remain silent if you don't want to put yourself in a weird position. Come on Terry, learn a lesson.

xo,
Sonia

http://RunwayHippie.com

runwayhippie.com said...

Well said Tavi! I couldn't agree more. It's really upsetting that Terry has to go and do something like that spread in The Journal. He's an incredible photographer and doesn't need to turn fashion photography into 80s feminist art or pornography. There is no need to blur the line between the three if you ask me. I can understand his friends coming to his defense but why not just remain silent if you don't want to put yourself in a weird position. Come on Terry, learn a lesson.

xo,
Sonia

http://RunwayHippie.com

runwayhippie.com said...

Well said Tavi! I couldn't agree more. It's really upsetting that Terry has to go and do something like that spread in The Journal. He's an incredible photographer and doesn't need to turn fashion photography into 80s feminist art or pornography. There is no need to blur the line between the three if you ask me. I can understand his friends coming to his defense but why not just remain silent if you don't want to put yourself in a weird position. Come on Terry, learn a lesson.

xo,
Sonia

http://RunwayHippie.com

Shayela H. said...

Brilliant work yet again Tavi. Make sure you keep writing about the fashion industry as well as fashion -- you have a huge audience to work with and if more teen girls thought like you, i wouldn't lose quite so much hope for our generation.

_hza said...

The girls may be too young to have a grasp of their own sexuality, a process that Richardson has clearly tried to speed up. Here we find the vulnerability. The same thing has been said about Larry Clark and his "obsession" with filming topless teenage boys.
Richardson is not solely to blame as you said, publishers have the right to not print his photos. I do feel sorry for the girls subjected to his advances, but girls that are so easily coaxed into doing these things, when they feel uncomfortable are not fit for this kind of industry. The problem lies here, the fashion world is not just about how one looks. It is also about strength of character and decisiveness.

Bri said...

I'm glad you wrote this. I never knew about this before and now I think that it's just sick.
bri-thestylesavant.blogspot.com

KD said...

You, my friend, are one of the most eloquent people I have never met. Seriously, this post is wonderful and clear and well-thought-out and I agree with everything. But remember, you need not apologize for writing this!

Shilo said...

HIGH FUCKING FIVE.

... said...

Bravo, bravo, bravo! I would like to add something else but I think you've said it as well as possibly could be said. Bravo, bravo bravo!!!

Tavi said...

Becca D'Bus-All good points. However, if he was a woman who was manipulating people into doing him sexual favors or taking their clothes off for the camera, it would still be wrong. But because he is a man, this puts him in a position of power, and he takes advantage of this. His age DOES matter, because some of these models are or were underage. So I do think it's gross that he's in his 40's. It doesn't matter if his photography is powerful. Art > morality.

Steve said...

It's a good thing you brought this up, I hadn't heard about this latest ordeal. Like Holly said, this really seems like a Roman Polanski ordeal. The situations aren't 1:1, but they are both cases of men respected for their art being accused of nasty stuff by women in decidedly compromised positions. They are also both cases where many influential people have stood to defend the men and put blame on the women, without really thinking... period.

I think, among many other awesome things, you could become fashion's Jay Smooth. Do you know who Jay Smooth is? He's a very intelligent and well-spoken New Yorker who has a great ability to break down absurd issues, just like you do. He's also a great example of how feminism isn't just women's responsibility, it's everyone's. Check out his take on the Polanski case, if you have the time: http://www.illdoctrine.com/2009/10/mini_doctrine_a_case_of_morals.html#comments

Elizabeth Denton said...

THANK YOU. So well said!

http://thenylife.blogspot.com/

Spencer Tweedy said...

I saw a picture of him with Ben Stiller on some blog and it was weird.

We should start a tumblr with only pedobear-shopped-ized photos of him and the models on his blog. Except like the pedobear can be him and we can put the bear face.. on.... him. :)

Lila said...

In the fashion industry people pat each other on the back for being "transgressive" and "revolutionary" when they are often anything but. I'm so happy to see that someone such as yourself who has a voice in the fashion world is not afraid to speak out on behalf of the manipulated models. Rock on Tavi.

Duncan's Fashion Calendar said...

tavi,

thanks for the opportunity to comment on this situation.
it's photographers like this that give the whole profession a bad name.
hopefully models will learn a lesson from this and never, ever go to a shoot alone!
keep up the good work tavi.

duncan.

Kitty Wong said...

Tavi,
Thank you for this.
I'm so glad to hear people of our generation voice these concerns. Never stop questioning.

Jamie Peck said...

Hey Tavi! I just wanted to say that you are right on with this post. Sometimes it takes a clear-headed kid to cut through the bullshit and point out that the emperor has no clothes. Fashion needs more people like you, who love only the good things about it but aren't afraid to point out the bad. And don't worry about backlash; for every effed up person who's said I had no right to publish a firsthand account of my experiences, five non effed-up people have given me kudos. Keep up the good work!

rinacatastrophe said...

I hope, in this internet age, that more people (even anonymously) come forward. Maybe that will prompt some more established models to come forward. Then maybe designers will re-think. And magazines will re-think. I guess that might just be high hopes.

I don't think his pictures are "innovative," or "arty," or "unique" in any way. I don't get what the big deal is about him.

I'm glad you said your two cents about it.

-rina
www.thelatesttoughs.blogspot.com

Catharine said...

Sweetie, I'm so glad you're saying this. I'm an old fart, but I love sharing your blog with my daughter who's 11. A real role model.

B said...

Bravo! You are a very insightful and inspiring young woman. I am very pleased that you have the might and the power to reach so many people with such wise words.

Jem said...

So Awesome Tavi!. Thank you:)

sonrei said...

not that there aren't already 6,000 comments on this saying the same thing, but I just wanted to say THANK. YOU. Christ, it's as if no one in the fashion business has any sense anymore, Terry Richardson is practically a verified pedophile and no one is doing anything about it. I mean I knew the fashion business is basically the mafia, but this is ridiculous. And I like that you are taking such a firm stance on this, if an innumerable amount of people who have the power to stop/bring light to this are not, and no one does but you, well then I mean I guess we're not far, but that's something, and I thank you.

November Grey said...

It's so wrong. I just look at his face and shudder. The pictures he takes are boring. A naked model getting her nipples pinched? How is this fashion? Boring, boring.

http://novembergrey.blogspot.com/

Tara said...

You are amazing! Thank you for writing this.

Little Bettie said...

You, Tavi, are the best kind of woman - the kind who sticks up for other people. And if that makes you (and me) a feminist a humanist or just a damn human, then more power to you girl.

Shayna said...

its fucking horrible and I don't see any difference between this and the political corruption that goes on among several political leaders in our country. Power corrupts, but it sure as hell does not justify these actions. You're exactly right, the justification of it being "artistry"
is absolute bullshit.

Thank you. I respect you so very much.

Mama Bean said...

I am so glad you wrote this. Your age, your platform, your voice. Everything. It needed to be said, and you were the perfect person to say it.
Thank-you. I feel like a proud mother. I'm sure YOUR mother IS proud, too :)

myPetsQuare said...

One of my girlfriends worked with him and he followed her into the toilets and pointed his camera under the door while she was peeing... and then when seh was changing he kept trying to take pix up her skirt or when she wasn't looking. I was kinda wondering when all this was going to come out. The thing that my friend said was that there was a male model there who was 16 years old and was pressured into doing lots of things that he would definitely later regret as he was so green and wasn't really aware what was going on... I love his pix heaps... but not if the model isn't a willing participant. Then it's not cool. Not even a bit.

tricia campbell hall said...

"I know this won't do anything".

i think it will.

good for you for being another voice posting about this.

Sarah said...

You wonderful, brave, honest, talented, smart, inspiring sweetheart. If you weren't so incredibly worldly at such a tender (I remember 14 and it was) young age, I'd also say "...from out the mouth of a child to our ear..." Brava for voicing your views. That model could not have been very much older than you.
You give me hope as I work in the present for a paradigm shift in how we treat all living entities. Holding on to my idealistic youth as I turn 50. Stay grounded.

Fourth Daughter said...

I totally agree with you and obviously you have a lot of support, from all the comments... as someone who worked in the fashion industry for nearly a decade I always felt like a real square saying how disgusting I found his work/work ethic because everyone would just laugh it off and say "well you know, he's an artist". I really don't understand how "being an artist" could ever make it OK. Apparently his (male) assistants have to do a lot more than "assist" too. Someone else I have issues with is Araki... in fact any of those "artists" who are basically just showing women and CHILDREN in ways that are wrong, just plain WRONG. If anyone who was not an "artist" did this sort of thing they'd be locked up, and rightfully so. It's just no excuse.
Excellent work from you, as usual.

anthrokeight said...

Oh, it doesn't make you look good, Tavi.

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...
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It makes you look GREAT. Really, really great.

I'm really glad that there are young women like you being activists now. This little bloggy blog post might not change anything. But, if you keep on with this, you, and other women like you, will change the world.

Tara Violet said...

Oh, Tavi I really really admire you. It was great to read what you had to say about the Terry claim. I agree 100%! I think it's ridiculous that we have to feel ashamed of thinking that it's WRONG for a man to use photography to make sexual advances, to be creepy and that the victims are criticized and blamed. You certainly have a life, you certainly are making a positive change/difference by posting things. I'm happy you had the courage to do so and I admire the eloquence of the way you went about doing it.
You are a wonderful human being and I always love hearing what you have to say, on here and on tumblr.
So thank you.

Tavi said...

Jamie Peck-Thank you SO much for speaking out and making it easier for others to do the same.

myPetsQuare-THAT'S CRAZY? Oh God. More stories just keep coming and coming. How unprofessional and ridiculous.

shaelah said...

It just makes me ill that he feels the need to create such creepy & disturbing images. And that's alright, and ok, and normal, good, and artistic and like, stuff. Because he's Terry Richardson. And then get them published all around the world without any consideration as to what impact it might have on the minds of the people who see the images. All this in his mind before we even get to the underage / lack of consent issue.

ehhh. Professionally creepy if you ask me.

Jessica Joan said...

i just threw up in my mouth and I barely could get through the first link on him.

dis.gust.ing.

Make Do Style said...

Tavi!!! You are a star - well said!!

Molly Lambert said...

This is an awesome post and feminists of all ages respect a ton for writing it.

Jamie York said...

Hi Tavi,

I am wondering if you might do a similar post re: Roman Polanski? So many designers and celebs have come on board supporting him. DVF comes to mind, Natalie Portman, etc.

He raped and sodomized a girl your age, maybe a tad older while she was high on drugs he gave her.

People seem to argue his art makes this ok? That because he is such a genius and such time has passed, it should all be forgotten.

If we celebrate those who victimize children, steal innocence....

I just don't get it.

I'm a therapist( with a love for fashion) and I see first hand how devastating these kinds of actions are.

One thing though, its not just about the sex, its about exerting power. And the fashion higher ups allow them to still have and exert this power. I want to say to Anna Wintour, what if it was Bee? What if it was Charlie? Is it worth sliding under the rug then?

RP said...

Way to speak your voice, Tavi!

no said...

This is the first time that I write on your blog, and believe me I wanted to do it for some time now (I came across your blog a year ago, and went through your entire blog, from the first post you made..).
I like that you began calling yourself a feminist! Welcome to the women's world, I believe everyone should go through a feminist period, and then keep it close to their heart, if the environment requires and makes you do some change of attitude.
I wanted to reply about the Uncle Terry issue. First of all, the whole thing reminded me of the case Roman Polanski was in, in the '70 (a recommendation of the latest documentary about him is necessary 'Roman Polanski: Wanted and Desired', of course if you haven't seen it yet). The thing that reminded me was this, the girl that pressed the charges against him, later forgave him, and in my opinion went on only for the wrong reasons (like money, and not at all morality). I believe that if we have the model world in our minds, that is a necessity, a sort of 'sacrifice' that the young models are making for their fame. I believe that all the models do it and they would continue on doing it, the question of morality is on the table. Every person speaks from their point of view, what is moral for one is not necessary for other, I am disgusted at the photos, I don't see one artistic point (though the art world has seen and is going to see innumerable artistic pieces that would appear as immoral and just wrong), I see this photographer (and his fellow Zahm) as party goers, that had the opportunity and connections (and were on the right place at the right time) to become famous and part of the fashion world..
My point on the Terry accusations is, why the hell those models stayed there, and why are they doing something that they consider and feel is immoral? If they are ready to spread their legs for fashion then let it be, but don't complain, or change your opinion a second later. Of course, consumerism, the place of the female subject as an object in today's society still hasn't changed. I don't want you to get the wrong picture, I don't approve Uncle Terry's photography, and very often question myself how can this ugly person be attractive to anyone, but I always want to get the other side of the story.
(the documentary would have to be again a reference to my point of view)
There it is, my first comment :)

Jana

--jenna said...

After reading your article and the ones you referenced, I feel like someone needs a bullhorn and the undivided attention of every female who's obviously not heard or believed this crucial bit of info:

If you feel uncomfortable, you don’t have to continue. You can say no. Here, practice with me:
No
No.
No.
No!
no.

What's depressing is that adults in the industry are behaving like kids in middle school: "he's just too popular! If we expose his criminal and creepy acts, then no one will like us!"
Abuse of power and authority is a classic sign of sexual predation. I wish these girls were able to claim a little dignity for themselves. Our grandmothers and great grandmothers didn’t fight against sexual discrimination, harassment and inequality so that we could be in a position today to be free sex toys for any guy that demands it...
I applaud you, Tavi, for speaking on such a sensitive issue. Now if only more people would find their voices, maybe we could change some things...

Gale said...

Miss Tavi, you hit the nail on the head once again! It is disturbing to me that in the non-fashion work world (in the US that is) we have employment laws about sexual-harassment. No one with "power" over the employment future of someone can ask for, suggest or pressure that person into doing anything sexual. In this case it is "I will only take your picture and make you 'famous' if you allow me to do this". It is known as quid pro quo (something for something) and could get a company involved sued and the person doing it sued independent of the company. Of course often this kind of crap (it is NOT art it is CRAP) in the fashion world often occurs outside of the laws of the US. And,unfortunately women are too afraid to come forward and are to desperate to keep their jobs to say "no". This is sexual assault, plan and simple.
Thank you for putting a voice to this aweful issue - maybe if we refuse to buy the fashion magazines and designers who support this behavior then things will change. Keep speaking up - it is important!

delilah said...

well said tavi! it doesn't matter whether or not what you say will affect anything, what's happening is disturbing and it needs to be stopped! good on you :)

sortedrage said...

I can just say it is a very old thing,old "artistic" men preying on young girls....

It is also an old thing that he has people thinking he is a talent for doing that,it really is incredible!!

Shame on the fashion world to make him a icon or something,when he should be in jail and be spit upon!!

I really am happy you see through that and I never would have though differently about you - you are very good... :D

momo said...

Thank you for speaking up about this bullying, predatory behavior that is enabled and condoned by far too many because they profit from it. As a young girl, as a teenager, and as a young woman, I was the object of similar kinds of predatory behavior by strangers in public places multiple times: flashers, stalkers, gropers, you name it. Too often, I was paralyzed with fear and doubt because I had no strong models of how to stand up for myself, and I did not know how to react. So I can only imagine how confusing, scary and disgusting it must be when young girls are being coerced and bullied by someone who SHOULD be a mentor and co-worker, someone to whom they owe their "big chance" and someone whose behavior is being tolerated and encouraged by an entourage of other adults.
I'm going to give this post to my 15-year old daughter because I want her to hear from a peer, not just from her mother, how to cut through the crap, and let her know that that queasy feeling that you get that THIS IS WRONG is the one she should listen to, not the fear of being impolite, or making a mistake, or pissing someone off, that we women are socialized to put before our own instincts.

This is a really important message for all women, not just young girls, to hear. IT IS NOT OK for anyone to bully you. NEVER. You have the right to say no and walk away.

erin said...

I have never read your blog before though I've certainly heard of you. This post was awesome and you're a badass for not being silent. I'll continue reading now.

Alice Saga said...

I LOVE YOU!!! LOVE YOU FOR BRINGING THIS UP!!!!

Keep up the Good Work.

X

xoLauraox09 said...

I 100% agree with you! You have balls :)

Regina said...

Bravo. Standing ovation for Tavi. That was great. Keep up the great work. I appreciate what you are doing.

The Curator said...

So, I'm checking out his "diary", right? You know, the one where he's glad handing it up with the prez on his home page (not a humble man, our Uncle Terry), and I realize that even though his gallery contains portraits of Lindsey Lohan, Mary Kate Olsen, Kiera Knightly, Courtney Love, and Pam Anderson....in his braggy little bio wherein he details all his great and meaningful contributions to society he only mentions the MALE celebrities he's shot. Gross.

juliajean said...

I really appreciate this post, it's rare to find females in High School who aren't oblivious to the prevalent issue of inequality for women.

With the stigma that is attached to declaring oneself a "feminist", I think it's really cool that you proudly declare yourself one. If you believe in human equality, you're a feminist! Women's rights have taken a back seat and it's amazing to hear young people acknowledging, and fighting against it.

P.S. Make a magazine, it would be sweet

calimazan said...

I had heard of you before but I had never read your blog. You said what many many people in this industry didn't and said it very well. All of us, we need to send a message: this behaviour is not okay! He should be shunned. It's horrible to see that we are in 2010 and we still need to say that and that most people will just shrug it off with it's just pervy old Terry as you said.
Thank you for writing this, if you are the future of fashion, fashion will have a great future.

Becca D'Bus said...

OMG, Tavi, you responded to me!

I agree with you that if it were a woman, it would still be wrong. I wonder if the reaction would be different. I suspect it would.

I do also think that if it were a straight white woman instead of TR, given the power dynamics of the relationship between photographer, model and industry, she would still be in power.

I further suspect that part of what is at play here is that TR is kinda creepy looking. And that part of what makes him creepy looking is that he's a man, engaged in behavior we think of as childish (seemingly fooling around on his sets, having a good time etc, I don't mean the sexual stuff, I refer to him with steve-o, photos he's taken with his male assistants as subjects or the images where he appears to be photo-bombing his own photos for instance) and this is compounded by age that is unhidden, he's balding, he has a moustache etc.

I agree, his age does matter with regards to the law and how this culture understands sex-crimes, but what I am referring to is that there is a certain disdain/suspicion of anyone who is older than nubile and young.

I'm not suggesting that the situation is not fucked up.

What I am suggesting though is that the response to the situation (from all, and actually, yours, Tavi, seems relatively free of this) is fucked up too.

ohnicole said...

this needed to be said. let's hope the industry listens instead of cowering.

thank you. thank you. thank you.

Anke said...

i've always found him and his work repulsive.
turns out my instincts were spot on...

Annie said...

once again, one of the youngest bloggers around speaks much more truthfully than the adults on here...! sexism in society is definitely at work here, too :( he's obvs. trying to be provocative but it just disgusting.

emma elizabeth said...

Thank you for writing this. Opinions like these need to be heard more often.

p.s. I love your blog :)

E.B. said...

Please don't ever get a life, Tavi. Keep writing about this stuff and call it as you see it. You are absolutely correct--it's not a feminist issue, it's a human one. Terry Richardson might take some pretty photographs, but so do thousands of students graduating from art school every year. And dollars to donuts, most are able to do so without victimizing their models. It seems that fashion is drawn to outsized personalities, which is what makes it so marvy a lot of the time, but this fascination can also lead to the promotion of some fairly vile characters. It's my hope that someday models unionize in some fashion because stories like this will continue to happen in an industry that makes huge profits from sex appeal.

gem twin said...

BRAVA!! you are very wise and talented.

There will always be creeps like TR and OZ but the enablers are more to blame. I have been slowly letting all my magazine subscriptions run out but after this post I am going to contact Bazaar and have them QUIT sending it--shame on these editors!

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blaquemamba said...

I don't know why people think a 14 year old girl should be made to make a choice like that. Also strange is that a grown man doesn't have that kind of niggling feeling that "something is not right with this".

charlotte said...

Thank you Tavi!
Everybody should spread the word moreover public figures.
TR is so disgusting. This omerta has to stop.

ほし said...

I'm going to be very upfront here: I've never read your blog! But I most certainly know who you are. I've seen you on other fashion blogs and read about the entire hat debacle. But, never visited your page. Came over here on a link from NubbyTwiglet.com and am glad I did!

I think it's interesting how this type of behavior is allowed to go on. Why is this man being heralded? I've visited plenty of other blogs with people just falling all over themselves in adulation for this man. Nudity has its place in art and photography, but when it has a message and, like you said, respect. I don't really sense any respect in his behavior; his attitude towards it seems to self-serving.

I could go on, but I think I've ranted enough. Thank you for using your power in the fashion blogosphere (and industry!) to discuss this matter. I'm glad you had the guts to discuss this!

Fia said...

Excellent, excellent post! Thank you so much for writing this.

Diana Hunter said...

Reminds me of this story from Salon(which I found on www.galadarling.com)Wonder if Terry is the 'famous photographer' she was assaulted by

http://www.salon.com/life/feature/2010/04/23/dirty_pictures_of_me?

Kim Louise said...

I wrote about this on my blog a while ago. If something like this was happening in any other industry in the world it would be a crime.

It's the downside of the fashion industry that people can just claim andything is 'art'.

I'm glad you wrote about this Tavi as I really reckon it's an important topic that seriously needs sorting!

lovexx

Lori said...

This is such a wonderfully written post and you are awesome for having articulated so well exactly what is wrong with the whole Terry Richardson situation. And speaking out against behavior like his will always make a difference. People like him rely on the silence of his victims and the community.

I've read some lovely things about you on Jezebel.com, but it's this post that has made your blog a must-visit place for me now.

Laura said...

I'm so glad you understand that what he does as wrong, Tavi, and I hope other women your age will read this post and understand as well.

HelsBells said...

Yes, excellent post, Tavi. However, people need to do more. Here's an idea: why don't y'all follow the example of Sister Wolf and her readers at www.godammit.com and send letters of protest to Conde Nast, H&M, and other major corporations telling them not to hire Richardson because he's sexually harassing their "employees" / subcontractors. Hit Terry where it hurts – in his wallet.

Anastasia said...

Being a photographer I can say that I believe we have a moral code to uphold. What we chose to shoot, and how we chose to shoot it influences not just fashion, but our culture.... what is seen as acceptable in our society (whether it be woman who are 5'11 and weigh 90lbs, or young girls portrayed as drug addicted sex slaves performing sexual favors on older men). There is along over due need for change within the fashion industry.

I guess I should end this appropriately with
"zomg go girl keep doing you"

thebelljarbird said...

Absolutely on point Tavi, thank you for being a human being...it will prove interesting to see how the fashion media will approach this post...will they laud it and blast it across the universe as they do with all other things Tavious or just sweep this under the rug?

Ad Baculum said...

Word.

And I think I will love you 10 years from now when you will not even think to put that last paragraph in this rant.

Iheartfashion said...

What a great post Tavi!
These creeps (Terry and Olivier) need to be stopped. It's a totally disgusting abuse of power.

quirky shannon said...

THAT'S REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY
EFFED.
UP.
oh my GOODNESS.
how disturbing

Mr. Jerry Seguin said...

i'm interested to know your thoughts on how fashion in general exploits women. it's easy to pick on terry richardson because his work is so overtly offensive. designers, editors, and fashion bloggers make a lot of money on exploiting women by the continual feed of images (your blog included) of extremely thin women in provocative and suggestive poses. if it's censorship you're seeking in fashion, where do we even begin?

Rani said...

Hai Tavi, I'd appreciate if you read this message i got from Sister Wolf for you on her blog http://www.godammit.com/2010/05/13/urgent-message-to-tavi/#comments


URGENT MESSAGE TO TAVI

Dear Tavi,

Welcome aboard the Terry Richardson Hoopla Machine! Better late than never. May I quote your blog from yesterday?

“I know this won’t do anything. I kind of thought that the Not Okay stuff would end after all that hoopla but not really, apparently! And my writing this won’t change anything, and it probably does not make me look really good, and I can already see the comments reading “You feminists are so uptight!”

Listen: YOU CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE!!!!!

Go to your conference tomorrow and speak about Terry Richardson! Your voice will be heard because you are influentual! Devote your WHOLE SPEECH to Terry Richardson! Urge everyone to demand that this predator stop getting work from mainstream magazines and corporations like H&M!

Tell your audience and your mentors that you object to the pornification of fashion photography and the abuse of young models! Terry Richardon’s recent actions are an explicit mockery of the complaints about him. He is saying, Look! No one can stop me! But he CAN be stopped.

This is your moment, my dear! Use it!

Blessings and prayers for your courage to effect change,

SW

Good Luck Tavi :D

Katie Beth said...

Wow I am very glad you wrote this. Everything you said was SO true and well put. This comment is probably going to be much like the ones above but I feel compelled to leave a comment. I completely agree with everything you said and I think this whole thing is just... disgusting. Honestly. I understand nude shots and even the concept of "sexy" shots, but I think this is just ... well, disgraceful to the human race? that sounds about right? He totally creeps me out... Anyways I don't think the models could possibly be blamed here, at least with a good argument. This is all 100% him being skeevy and asking a 19 year old to touch him.

Would his momma be proud?
I think NOT.

on a happier note, continue on being awesome, rad, legit, etc.

Amy said...

Unbelievable. You are right on the money.

brittanny said...

Great post, Tavi. Everything you said was true.

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